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To echo other comments. The prices of the MIJ stuff is embarrassingly low, definitely not a time to be selling. In the last month I picked up an 80s Aria Pro II TSB 350 as a backup to my existing 350 for just £101, and an amazing Aria Pro II 1981 Stratocaster for £67. I need to purge my collection at the moment but just not the time to sell.

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Here's a Cardinal Series bass. Left handed, but strung right handed. Hard case, reasonable postage, low starting price. It'll be interesting to see how high this goes.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-II-Bass-Left-handed-but-strung-right-handed-One-owner-Includes-case-/231446876573?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35e34f119d"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item35e34f119d[/url]

EDIT: Seems that some people are bidding on this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-GRANT-Fretless-bass-guitar-1960s-70s-Made-in-Japan-hard-case-/400837830018?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5d53cbe582

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Looks like a bargain to me: Vantage x88 bin for £150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bass-Guitar-Vantage-X88-4-string-fretted-right-hand-with-carry-case-/251786548778?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a9fa5d62a

15 hours left to bid on a Blazer (custom paint job), currently at £150:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331437507020?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Ouch. Nice looking bass though.
Got an Aria TSB 350 here: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1980-Aria-Pro-II-Thor-Sound-Bass-Guitar-TSB-350-Japan-Matsumoku-/231448771243?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35e36bfaab"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1980-Aria-Pro-II-Thor-Sound-Bass-Guitar-TSB-350-Japan-Matsumoku-/231448771243?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item35e36bfaab[/url]

£275 a very optimistic price I would suggest current climate, especially for one sprayed matt black and broken off strap pins.

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[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1421272857' post='2659355']
Westone Thunder 1A. BIN, but probably just a tad optimistic in the current climate. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-bass-guitar-With-Active-Pickup-Made-In-Japan/291344591055
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There's one on Guntree for 150, looks in good nick too:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/westone-thunder-1a-active-bass-guitar/1096507911

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Prices of Thunders vary, but they seem to be holding up right now. A nice fretless sold for £185, but another sold for £147. On average the fretless basses seem to outperform the fretted ones. E.g. this one for £121 is about typical. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matsumoku-Made-in-Japan-MIJ-Vintage-Bass-Guitar-Westone-Thunder-1A-Active-/161448463105?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2597140b01"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2597140b01[/url] But, look at this one. £195!!! [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-1-Vintage-Collectors-Bass-Guitar-C-W-Fitted-Hard-Case-/141497623289?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item20f1ea62f9"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item20f1ea62f9[/url] Would the new fitted hard case add to the price? I personally would prefer the original case.

Thunder III fretless, £311. I think I've seen them sell for more in the past.

Not a bass, but this Thunder 2A Guitar sold for £295!!!!! Is there anything special about it, as it looks identical to mine. Mine is in excellent, near new, condition and has the OHSC. Not that I want to sell it. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-2a-/111512250806?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19f6a5e9b6"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19f6a5e9b6[/url]

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Prices for Thunder IIs & IIIs have always been higher (unless you drop lucky), I guess because of the Matsumoku through-neck thing, which seems to be something people will pay a fair amount for - look at the prices of Aria Pro SBs & SB-Rs.

Bolt-neck Thunders have held their prices surprisingly well while much of the rest of vintage MIJ has been in freefall. They never went for much more than £150, and many still do - surprising considering how common they are.

J.

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I thought that some years ago when I watched them more carefully, that a Thunder 1A could be obtained for about £130, with an exceptionally cheap one just getting under £100 if it's pickup only in some obscure location, and up to about £160 as a good price, up to £200 exceptionally. Right now they're matching this and more. The £295 for the Thunder 2A guitar seems exceptionally high to me.

The Thunders seem to be considerably outperforming the Bass Collections price wise. A Bass Collection SB320 went for £80 (or was it £80?) recently. Maybe an apples and oranges comparison as they're from different eras. But I wonder how they compare as basses.

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On Ebay there's always the occasional out-of-hand bidding war leading to crazy prices or under-the-radar bargain, but there's usually a sort of median price range - I don't think it's changed much for Thunders. I had a nice T1 guitar which sold for exactly £150, about 6 years ago!

Regarding current disparities, I refer my learned friend to [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/7473-japcrap-spotting/page__view__findpost__p__2636357"]my earlier post [/url]contrasting the same seller's Washburn Force 40 & (poxy) Westone Thunder!

J.

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Aria Pro II CSB 380 £100 BIN collection only Newcastle. Should make someone happy.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Aria-Pro-II-Cardinal-Series-CSB-380-Bass-Guitar-/171644660812?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27f6d1ac4c"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Aria-Pro-II-Cardinal-Series-CSB-380-Bass-Guitar-/171644660812?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27f6d1ac4c[/url]

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Thanks Jon. That's a good example of a tale of two Japanese brands.

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1421429664' post='2661179']
Aria Pro II CSB 380 £100 BIN collection only Newcastle. Should make someone happy.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Aria-Pro-II-Cardinal-Series-CSB-380-Bass-Guitar-/171644660812?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27f6d1ac4c"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item27f6d1ac4c[/url]
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What does it mean by 'maple replacement neck'?

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1421432923' post='2661238']
What does it mean by 'maple replacement neck'?
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Good question. From the rest of the pitch it sounds like a junk shop bloke who's Googled the bass for details, so maybe he means "detachable".

J.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1421432923' post='2661238']
Thanks Jon. That's a good example of a tale of two Japanese brands.



What does it mean by 'maple replacement neck'?
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The original spiel from Aria on this included 'replaceable neck', along with 'flat ash body' etc.

Someone should buy this before a bid is placed. I wonder if he'll post? :rolleyes:

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[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1421451208' post='2661594']
I suspect here it's reasonable (for me) to assume that "replaceable" is in fact Japlish for "detachable".
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I briefly wondered if it was yet another case of a neck and a body from basses of different scale lengths put together. But I zoomed in on the picture of the neck and it looked like the original.

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[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hondo-Professional-Bass-80s-32-Medium-Scale-length-very-rare-MIJ-Japan-/191484400461?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2c955c134d"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hondo-Professional-Bass-80s-32-Medium-Scale-length-very-rare-MIJ-Japan-/191484400461?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2c955c134d[/url]

Replacement tuners but decent lump. No doubt weigh a Tonne :)

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Nice looking Westone Thunder II bass. I think this is the V3 which was the medium scale one.
It looks very nice indeed and a good price if you are close to Yeovil.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-2-Bass-Guitar-with-case-/261740444845?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cf0f23cad"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-2-Bass-Guitar-with-case-/261740444845?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cf0f23cad[/url]

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