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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1441914130' post='2862976']
£720 for a Westone Rail? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-The-Rail-Bass-Guitar-80s-headless-bass-Matsumoku-Japan-/111768452655?hash=item1a05eb3e2f"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1a05eb3e2f[/url]
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Seller is (probably self-)deluded. I love Rails, but really... ;)

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1441914130' post='2862976']
£720 for a Westone Rail? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-The-Rail-Bass-Guitar-80s-headless-bass-Matsumoku-Japan-/111768452655?hash=item1a05eb3e2f"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1a05eb3e2f[/url]
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Ludicrous.

J.

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I think this Ibanez Silver Cadet must be Japanese-made. I've not run across one before:
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vinatge-80s-Ibanez-Silver-Cadet-bass-guitar-rare-/131603091995?hash=item1ea427d21b"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1ea427d21b[/url]

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[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1442273618' post='2865738']
I think this Ibanez Silver Cadet must be Japanese-made. I've not run across one before:
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vinatge-80s-Ibanez-Silver-Cadet-bass-guitar-rare-/131603091995?hash=item1ea427d21b"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1ea427d21b[/url]
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Somehow that looks a bit Cimarish to me.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1442423227' post='2866882']
Somehow that looks a bit Cimarish to me.
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Agreed. Looks like the "Cimar By Ibanez" branded stuff ([url="http://www.guitar-museum.com/guitar-22629-Cimar-by-Ibanez-CX140"]this sort of thing[/url]) that was around in the early 80s. I doubt it's MIJ.

J.

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I have, and they were. :)

Interesting, I thought "Rockoon" was a Japan-market exclusive brand. Seeing a "Schaller Rockoon" listed in Germany sheds a bit of light on the origin of an obvious MIJ Rick copy I came across, branded as Schaller. Presumably it's likely to be a Kawai.

A Rockoonbacker, perhaps. :ph34r:

J.

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[quote name='Meddle' timestamp='1442833211' post='2869763']
Westone Thunder 1A in Cash Converters on Leith Walk for £89. Finish has playing wear but seems complete and the neck was in good shape. Had to fight the urge!
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If it's good it could sell for double that.

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[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1442835807' post='2869812']
Easy £150 whatever the cosmetic condition.

Must not buy-to-flip... :D

J.
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Yes, it can go seriously wrong.... You might actually like it! Then you won't be able to sell and THEN where would you be?!! :o

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Silly, silly bargain. Like Eric says,these can be variable but good ones are very good.

Early 80s, made in Korea by Cort, some lovely details like the triple dot brass inlays. You often see these being fobbed off on Ebay as Matsumoku builds, priced £200+.

Someone needs to buy this, if only to stop that happening! :lol:

J.

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There's defretted Westone Concord on eBay £90 BIN and pickup in Woolwich.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Japanese-Westone-Concord-Bass-Mark-I-bass-guitar-fretless/111783794822?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D4e1811911b0147018c2139a1aee9527a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D331667450889"]http://www.ebay.co.u...%3D331667450889[/url]

Has a couple of strange markings, 6 screw holes on the back like it's been fixed to display rails ? and what looks like an obscured serial on the headstock.
My Concord has the serial on a plain neck plate saying MIJ and Matsu whereas this has a fancy Westone plate.

Nice enough looking bit of kit.

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I think £90 for a defretted concord is a bit high actually. If it still had the frets and was in better condition, yes.

Here is a nice looking Aria P2 SB1000, though the description suggests that the condition isn't quite what the photos suggest. The owner is selling it to fund a ukulele. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-2-SB1000-1980-Bass-Guitar-/161842494856?hash=item25ae907d88"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item25ae907d88[/url]

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1443864260' post='2878226']
Here is a nice looking Aria P2 SB1000, though the description suggests that the condition isn't quite what the photos suggest. The owner is selling it to fund a ukulele. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-2-SB1000-1980-Bass-Guitar-/161842494856?hash=item25ae907d88"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item25ae907d88[/url]
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It's a bit light on pics of the rear buckle rash - but from what you can see it's nothing compared to the back of the SB-R Elite I picked up last year! The wear's in the exact same place, though.

J.

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[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1444059625' post='2879932']
Have Westone Thunders suddenly gone through the roof?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Matsumoku-Thunder-I-A-Bass-with-Free-case-bundle-/201437603290?hash=item2ee69de5da"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2ee69de5da[/url]

£315 including a case, that he admits isn't up to much.
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They've gone up a bit. Here's one that went for £180, which would have been very surprising a few years ago. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-1A-bass-guitar-carry-case-Matsumoku-MIJ-/321848670523?hash=item4aefacf93b"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4aefacf93b[/url]

But look at this: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-1-Bass-electric-bass-guitar-and-fur-lined-case-VGC-/191668971321?hash=item2ca05c6739"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2ca05c6739[/url] Moral=if your bass has missing strings, replace them before selling! (maybe).

There are some other ones that sold at a good price. The lower priced ones all seem to have something value-reducing about them. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-1A-Active-Bass-Guitar-Retro-1982-hardly-used-Matsumoku-/331602540812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d350d390c"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4d350d390c[/url]

EDIT: I previously said that I hadn't seen one go for under £100 for a while. Clearly I hadn't looked well enough. Most of the sub £100 ones were (e.g.) 'For parts or not working', but a few seemed to be just showing their age a bit.

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