Bassassin Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 hours ago, pete.young said: A lovely example of a Greco Les Paul bass copy. I'd really like this but I think the price is a bit optimistic. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Japanese-Greco-Les-Paul-CTM-Bass-Guitar-EGB-850-Returns-Accepted/202646842968?hash=item2f2eb16e58:g:z0MAAOSwetBb1Wi~ Would think you could import one from Japan for less than that. Like I expect the seller did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Greco are the brand which gave rise to the "better than the original" mantra. I wouldn't pay that much for one, but I think some folks probably would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 The guy has a Silver Series Squier on sale for £599. I suspect he's a bit of a chancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, gjones said: The guy has a Silver Series Squier on sale for £599. I suspect he's a bit of a chancer. A lot of folks seem to be trying to shift Squier to a more upmarket price range... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, prowla said: A lot of folks seem to be trying to shift Squier to a more upmarket price range... Certainly the MIJ Squiers. Understandable with the early 80s JVs & SQs, which are both rare & high-quality, but the 90s Silver Series has nothing over the MIK stuff that was around at the same time. Apart from that "Made In Japan" decal. 2 hours ago, prowla said: Greco are the brand which gave rise to the "better than the original" mantra. Which, of course, gave rise to Fender doing a deal with Kanda Shokai (owner of the Greco brand) to set up Fender Japan, on condition they ceased production of Greco-branded Fender copies. Round & round it goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I suppose I should put this up here rather than adding a whole new thread. SGC Nanyo SB310. Inverness. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sanyo-Bass-Collection-SB310-Bass-Guitar/223722231450?hash=item3416e2569a:g:XqsAAOSwOIpdtJoM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 14 hours ago, alyctes said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sanyo-Bass-Collection-SB310-Bass-Guitar/223722231450?hash=item3416e2569a:g:XqsAAOSwOIpdtJoM THat looks to be in very good condition. Oddly enough I'm going to Inverness next week, but the luggage might be an issue on the plane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 11 hours ago, pete.young said: THat looks to be in very good condition. Oddly enough I'm going to Inverness next week, but the luggage might be an issue on the plane. Neck off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missis sumner Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 What is this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UN-NAMED-38-LONG-SUNBURST-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-WORKING-BUT-KNOCKS-W0-20676/273878437041?hash=item3fc46d4cb1%3Ag%3AvRkAAOSwbrlc-Snb&LH_ItemCondition=3000 Guyatone? Kent? Gem short scale? I notice all the similar pictures on Google show quite a bit of black paint on the body contour. This one doesn't seem to have a contour and the number on the back would suggest it's a little older than this one: https://reverb.com/item/10618653-gem-short-scale-bass-guitar-1960-s-1-pickup-sunburst-case It also looks as if it's been de-fretted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, missis sumner said: What is this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UN-NAMED-38-LONG-SUNBURST-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-WORKING-BUT-KNOCKS-W0-20676/273878437041?hash=item3fc46d4cb1%3Ag%3AvRkAAOSwbrlc-Snb&LH_ItemCondition=3000 Guyatone? Kent? Gem short scale? I notice all the similar pictures on Google show quite a bit of black paint on the body contour. This one doesn't seem to have a contour and the number on the back would suggest it's a little older than this one: https://reverb.com/item/10618653-gem-short-scale-bass-guitar-1960-s-1-pickup-sunburst-case It also looks as if it's been de-fretted. Almost K-like, although the bridge looks a bit too well made... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 hours ago, missis sumner said: What is this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UN-NAMED-38-LONG-SUNBURST-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-WORKING-BUT-KNOCKS-W0-20676/273878437041?hash=item3fc46d4cb1%3Ag%3AvRkAAOSwbrlc-Snb&LH_ItemCondition=3000 Guyatone? Kent? Gem short scale? I notice all the similar pictures on Google show quite a bit of black paint on the body contour. This one doesn't seem to have a contour and the number on the back would suggest it's a little older than this one: https://reverb.com/item/10618653-gem-short-scale-bass-guitar-1960-s-1-pickup-sunburst-case It also looks as if it's been de-fretted. It's a Cort, so made in Korea. Probably mid 70s, and based on Japanese designs from a decade or so earlier. The gold sticker with the WO-prefix number identifies it as Cort, not sure if this is a model number or production run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missis sumner Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Bassassin said: It's a Cort, so made in Korea. Probably mid 70s, and based on Japanese designs from a decade or so earlier. The gold sticker with the WO-prefix number identifies it as Cort, not sure if this is a model number or production run. Interesting stuff! How does the WO identify it as a Cort? The second one I posted a link to also has a WO number, but was described as a Gem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, missis sumner said: Interesting stuff! How does the WO identify it as a Cort? The second one I posted a link to also has a WO number, but was described as a Gem... These gold stickers with the WO prefix appear on 70s & 80s guitars from the Cor-Tek (Cort) factory in Korea. Here's a random Cort-branded guitar with the same type of sticker: https://reverb.com/item/9881428-cort-double-cutaway-electric-guitar-1981-antique-brown-sunburst Cort's always been an OEM manufacturer as well as a brand name, and like all such factories, would badge guitars with whatever name the customer specified - as well as supplying unbranded instruments, like the one in the original link. The bulk of Korean instruments from the 70s and 80s seem to have come from either Cort or Samick, and since often no country of manufacture is specified on the instrument (stickers tend to get peeled off!) many people assume they're Japanese. If you know what to look for it's usually quite straightforward to spot differences between MIK & MIJ, despite there being a lot of shared designs. It does actually seem to be the case that as Japanese guitar manufacturing became more sophisticated and began producing higher standard instruments, budget ranges were outsourced to cheaper Korean manufacture. The problem with trying to understand the history of these old instruments - both Korean and Japanese- is that very few real records were kept, and a lot has to be pieced together from old brochures and details such as these WO stickers. There are still loads of grey areas, and probably a lot of stuff that'll never be 100% certain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Crazy price... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squire-JV-Series-Precision-Bass-1983-Sunburst-Japanese-Vintage-Bass/323876426985?hash=item4b688a14e9:g:8NQAAOSwn3Rc~sCu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bobo_08 said: Crazy price... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squire-JV-Series-Precision-Bass-1983-Sunburst-Japanese-Vintage-Bass/323876426985?hash=item4b688a14e9:g:8NQAAOSwn3Rc~sCu Specially when the ignorant sod can’t even spell its name properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, prowla said: Specially when the ignorant sod can’t even spell its name properly. In this case you are correct but I think the first batch of MIJ guitars were branded 'Squire'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said: In this case you are correct but I think the first batch of MIJ guitars were branded 'Squire'... Just going by what it says on the headstock... 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 best thing is he says, "priced for a quick sale" 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Here is another https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1984-SQUIER-by-FENDER-JAZZ-BASS-JV-SERIES-JAPAN/123967224123?hash=item1cdd05b93b:g:M40AAOSwXHxcDswc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 oh and another https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squier-1983-JV-P-Bass-57-reissue-with-Badass-II-bridge/303323415881?hash=item469f7c0549:g:JjMAAOSwp2ddpoLl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: In this case you are correct but I think the first batch of MIJ guitars were branded 'Squire'... They weren't. The Squier name comes from the string manufacturer VC Squier, which Fender acquired in 1965. They've always spelled it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I had a discussion a while back with someone who said he couldn't be bothered with the spelling of a made-up name; I pointed out to him that it was the family name of a company which Fender acquired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 I'm old enough to remember reading an early interview with US stadium-rock plodder Billy Squier being upset by people pronouncing his name as "Billy's Queer". Boo, and indeed, hoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Bassassin said: They weren't. The Squier name comes from the string manufacturer VC Squier, which Fender acquired in 1965. They've always spelled it correctly. My mistake - I know the origins of the name, but I was under the mistaken impression the first JV guitars were branded "Fender" with a small "Squire Series" decal, but apparently it was spelled "Squier" on those too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambi31 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hi I have been recommended this thread from the guitarchat forum. I have recently purchased this. Any info on it would be greatly appreciated. Not sure if the fact it a 6 string matters on here. Apologies if so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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