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[quote name='Musky' post='327942' date='Nov 12 2008, 09:06 PM']Nah, that one's a snip. Check out this one :)

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRUNO-GUITAR-ROYAL-ARTIST-Vintage-1970-With-New-Case_W0QQitemZ370095078885"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRUNO-GUITAR-ROYAL-A...emZ370095078885[/url][/quote]

I received a very odd reply from the seller when I asked how they could justify $3500 for it.

"It's on earth that this guitar is."

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[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDO-2-1970-S-PRECISION-BASS-GUITAR-H830S-HUMBUCKER_W0QQitemZ250325749950QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item250325749950&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318"]250325749950[/url]

Hondo p with 'humbucker', and telltale plywood covering sunburst.

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[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='329464' date='Nov 14 2008, 11:02 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDO-2-1970-S-PRECISION-BASS-GUITAR-H830S-HUMBUCKER_W0QQitemZ250325749950QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item250325749950&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318"]250325749950[/url]

Hondo p with 'humbucker', and telltale plywood covering sunburst.[/quote]

I might have a punt on this. Is it just me or does the nut look poorly glued in?

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Bassassin Grand Master

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[quote name='kevbass' post='329971' date='Nov 16 2008, 01:18 AM']I might have a punt on this. Is it just me or does the nut look poorly glued in?[/quote]

There was a feller on here selling one for £50 a week or two ago - might be worth asking if he's still got it:

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=30935"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=30935[/url]

No question about the body material on that one, either. BTW these pickups are actually odd-looking single-coils, not 'buckers, despite the twin row of pole pieces. I bought one for a project, it puts out 11k which is pretty hefty for a single coil.

J.

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I'm incredibly frustarted with my laptop! It crashed before I had a chance to put my bid in for this rare as rocking horse poo beauty.



[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160297642790"]CSL Plexi[/url]

I've got the matching 6 string already and to make matters worse it went for less than I was prepared to pay :)

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Happy Jack Grand Master

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Back again ...

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COLUMBUS-Electric-BASS-Guitar_W0QQitemZ290276328766QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item290276328766&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COLUMBUS-Electric-BA...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

It's the extra pickup cover, isn't it? Turns an ugly bass into a true monstrosity. Not so much "so bad it's good" as "so bad it's really bad".

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[quote name='noirpunk' post='330222' date='Nov 16 2008, 06:58 PM']I'm incredibly frustarted with my laptop! It crashed before I had a chance to put my bid in for this rare as rocking horse poo beauty.



[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160297642790"]CSL Plexi[/url]

I've got the matching 6 string already and to make matters worse it went for less than I was prepared to pay :)[/quote]

Bugger i missed that one, i do like the look of that.

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[quote name='spinynorman' post='328386' date='Nov 13 2008, 02:35 PM']I had high hopes for this, but not at 420 quid.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300270608244&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020"]Ibanez Les Paul[/url][/quote]

I don't claim to understand what things should be priced at yet. But this looks another overpriced Ibanez to me.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=220311005804&Category=4713null&_trksid=p3907.m29"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...rksid=p3907.m29[/url]

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='332082' date='Nov 19 2008, 09:10 AM']I don't claim to understand what things should be priced at yet. But this looks another overpriced Ibanez to me.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=220311005804&Category=4713null&_trksid=p3907.m29"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...rksid=p3907.m29[/url][/quote]

That's probably not too far from the ballpark for an Ibby Musician, unless you get lucky. The early 80 originals - Musician, Studio & Artist ranges - were high-end & can fetch some pretty silly money, particularly the Artists.

With this one you also have to factor in the fact it's in Japan & will cost six thousand quid to post.

J.

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[quote name='beerdragon' post='331990' date='Nov 18 2008, 11:37 PM']Bugger i missed that one, i do like the look of that.[/quote]

Absolutely stunning instruments, if it's anything like my 6 string version it'll sustain for days too.
Despite what people think plexiglass produces a good tone (infact because there's no imperfections like wood the vibrations are better)

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Which planet did you say you were from?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-Bass-Guitar_W0QQitemZ220318147446QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item220318147446&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-Bass-Guitar_W0QQit...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

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This would seem to be the perfect place to ask about any info/history on my Japanese made Profile bass.

It's a Silhouette model P-Bass copy bought in '88 second hand.

Google searches haven't really provided much info, I think Profile made various copies of Fender basses & guitars for the European/Australian market (maybe branded as something else for US Market?) in the early to mid 80's. At some stage I think production was switched to Korea.

Any info appreciated :) .

Thanks.

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[quote name='boo' post='337802' date='Nov 26 2008, 10:26 PM']This would seem to be the perfect place to ask about any info/history on my Japanese made Profile bass.

It's a Silhouette model P-Bass copy bought in '88 second hand.

Google searches haven't really provided much info, I think Profile made various copies of Fender basses & guitars for the European/Australian market (maybe branded as something else for US Market?) in the early to mid 80's. At some stage I think production was switched to Korea.

Any info appreciated :) .

Thanks.[/quote]

Photos would be good.

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Bassassin Grand Master

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I've seen a couple of Profiles go through Ebay, sold OK-ish on the "MIJ-Ibanez-Lawsuit" pitch. There really seems to be very little out there about these, & my tattered [i]Guru's Guitar Guide[/i] just tells us they were good-quality Japanese copies, produced between 1984 - 86. It also gives a guide price of £100 - £150, if it still happens to be 1990 where you are. :)

I would expect, like most brands Profile's an importer's name, meaning it's anyone's guess who actually made them. Seems the brand wasn't around for long, unsurprising since they missed the whole "copy era" by a decade, & in the mid-80s would have found themselves competing with established Japanese replica-ists like Tokai & Fernandes. That & the fact that people back then had an annoying tendency to want to play new & contemporary designs, rather than what were seen as superannuated 60s & 70s relics.

How times change... :huh:

Jon.

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Thanks for the info Jon.

It's always perplexed me why I've never been able to find out much about it, but if they were only produced over a couple of years that would help explain it.

It does seem (to me anyway) to be a pretty well made instrument.


[quote name='Happy Jack' post='339225' date='Nov 28 2008, 08:46 AM']Photos would be good.[/quote]

I'll see if I can get some up by the end of the weekend.

Thanks.

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[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='340878' date='Nov 30 2008, 12:15 AM']This can't last:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-jazz-bass-copy-by-Avon-Rose-Morris_W0QQitemZ110319373897QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item110319373897&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318"]Avon[/url][/quote]
[i]"has a nice sound through an amp" [/i]
Right where's me cheque book? :)

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Now here's something you don't see every day:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1964-Yamaha-Flying-Samurai-bass_W0QQitemZ300275194146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item300275194146&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1964-Yamaha-Flying-S...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

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And how about this:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ultra-Rare-60s-70s-Yamaha-Bass-Guitar-SA-Series-NR_W0QQitemZ120342602117QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item120342602117&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ultra-Rare-60s-70s-Y...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='341465' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:14 PM']Now here's something you don't see every day:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1964-Yamaha-Flying-Samurai-bass_W0QQitemZ300275194146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item300275194146&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1964-Yamaha-Flying-S...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url][/quote]
"[i]Someone may have touched up the body- it is hard to tell[/i]"
Perhaps if he looked at the pics he's posted he'll be able to tell a bit better. :)
Looks like it's had a pretty hard life. Needs a lot of TLC to be right again

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='341466' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:15 PM']And how about this:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ultra-Rare-60s-70s-Yamaha-Bass-Guitar-SA-Series-NR_W0QQitemZ120342602117QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item120342602117&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ultra-Rare-60s-70s-Y...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url][/quote]
I never seen one of these before. Quite nice in a toilet seat kind of way. :huh:
I know a fellow BCer, keen on short scales and lives round the corner from me who would love this.

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