Vintage MIJ (formerly J@pCr@p) Spotting

[Bassassin]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='996278' date='Oct 21 2010, 07:34 PM']£66.66. Very close to being the starting price of the beast.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SHORT-SCALE-JAPANESE-TEISCO-JEDSON-TELE-BASS-GUITAR-MIJ-/260681286069?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cb1d0c1b5"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SHORT-SCALE-JAPANESE...=item3cb1d0c1b5[/url][/quote]
Is spraying undiluted stream-of-consciousness bullsh!t a Satanic trait, do you think? This is extraordinary, particularly considering the brand name is "Impact":

[quote]This is an unusual bass guitar made by Jedson, which I believe was a sub-division of Teisco with a limited run of Japanese made guitars for the English market in the 60s.[/quote]

Do schools these days teach the idea that if you don't know about something, just fabricate something random, because it'll make you look/feel clever & who gives a sh!t about facts, anyway? I suppose at least he doesn't say "I have read..." or "I was reliably informed...".

Anyway these basses (and the ubiquitous guitar versions) were made by Guyatone in the early 70s, nothing to do with Teisco. Or Jedson, which was a brand owned by J. E.Dallas & Sons, prior to the formation of Dallas-Arbiter, who subsequently used the Arbter brand name. As any fule kno.

J.

Edited October 21, 2010 by Bassassin

[Jerry_B]

That said, I do like the clunkiness of it's design...

[Happy Jack]

I just can't imagine why this only £39 BIN.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970s-Jazz-Bass-Style-Project-39-JAPAN-/360312579999?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item53e44da79f"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970s-Jazz-Bass-Styl...=item53e44da79f[/url]

[Mr. Foxen]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='996349' date='Oct 21 2010, 08:29 PM']Do schools these days teach the idea that if you don't know about something, just fabricate something random, because it'll make you look/feel clever & who gives a sh!t about facts, anyway? I suppose at least he doesn't say "I have read..." or "I was reliably informed...".

Anyway these basses (and the ubiquitous guitar versions) were made by Guyatone in the early 70s, nothing to do with Teisco. Or Jedson, which was a brand owned by J. E.Dallas & Sons, prior to the formation of Dallas-Arbiter, who subsequently used the Arbter brand name. As any fule kno.

J.[/quote]

I've said before anyone who prefixes something with 'I believe' is lying. If you are going to spam keywords, just put them at the end.]

Also: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sakai-bass-guitar-RARE-99p-start-NO-RESERVE-/140468980512?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item20b49a8b20"]Sakai.[/url]

Edited October 22, 2010 by Mr. Foxen

[tauzero]

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='997640' date='Oct 22 2010, 11:25 PM']Also: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sakai-bass-guitar-RARE-99p-start-NO-RESERVE-/140468980512?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item20b49a8b20"]Sakai.[/url][/quote]
Might be just a poor picture, but it looks like the nut is orientated somewhat differently to the bridge. Twisted neck, bad photo, or both?

[Mr. Foxen]

Has a bit of torzal twist going on maybe. I think the optical effect of the headstock shape and strings don't help, but wouldn't expect it to be very straight anyway.

[Bassassin]

Didn't notice that before, dunno how - that's a massive twist!

J.

[Paul S]

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-EB-0-COPY-BASS-GUITAR-JACK-BRUCE-LED-ZEPPLIN-/130447092224?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e5f40aa00"]A new listing made me laugh[/url]. Gibson EBO copy, the lister has no idea what make but it 'feels Japanese' and 'could have been made at the famous Fuji Gen-gakki factory'. A bargain at £750.

Edited October 24, 2010 by Paul S

[Happy Jack]

[quote name='Paul S' post='998622' date='Oct 24 2010, 08:24 AM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-EB-0-COPY-BASS-GUITAR-JACK-BRUCE-LED-ZEPPLIN-/130447092224?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e5f40aa00"]A new listing made me laugh[/url]. Gibson EBO copy, the lister has no idea what make but it 'feels Japanese' and 'could have been made at the famous Fuji Gen-gakki factory'. A bargain at £750.[/quote]

Bwahahahaha!

Looks like an Avon to me, but I'll wait for Jon's assessment.

In all fairness, it's probably worth at least £100 ...

[Bassassin]

Six-bolt neck is quite unusual on an EB copy, don't think it's an Avon because of this. It's claimed that Moridaira used these early on but I have no idea if that's the case, tbh.

I hope the price is a typo - surely he must have meant £75? Or maybe it's because it's part of the "Law Suite"?

J.

[Annoying Twit]

Just when I was getting bored thinking that the CMI Jazz Basses which were just a bit overpriced weren't interesting enough to post, along comes this. £3k worth of JapCrap bass?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Greco-Roland-Synclavier-Rare-Bass-Guitar-Synthesizer-/320607592839?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4aa5b3a187"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Greco-Roland-Synclav...=item4aa5b3a187[/url]

[tino]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='998689' date='Oct 24 2010, 11:01 AM']Bwahahahaha!

Looks like an Avon to me, but I'll wait for Jon's assessment.

In all fairness, it's probably worth at least £100 ...[/quote]
See their other listings his Klira is a Hopf.....I have had dozens of them...IF you are very lucky £450.....They look pretty but sound shi*e

[Annoying Twit]

[quote name='Paul S' post='998622' date='Oct 24 2010, 08:24 AM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-EB-0-COPY-BASS-GUITAR-JACK-BRUCE-LED-ZEPPLIN-/130447092224?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1e5f40aa00"]A new listing made me laugh[/url]. Gibson EBO copy, the lister has no idea what make but it 'feels Japanese' and 'could have been made at the famous Fuji Gen-gakki factory'. A bargain at £750.[/quote]

Now on for £10 starting bid. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Bass-guitar-like-Gibson-EB-Series-/200535265538?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2eb0d55102"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Bass-guitar-like...=item2eb0d55102[/url]

Edit: Oh, that's a different seller. Same 6 bolt neck though.

Edited October 24, 2010 by Annoying Twit

[Bassassin]

That's the weirdness of Ebay for you right there - I'm sure I've never seen a 6-bolt EB-0 copy before (I would remember!) and now, they're like buses. Amaze.

J.

[noelk27]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='998798' date='Oct 24 2010, 01:01 PM']Just when I was getting bored thinking that the CMI Jazz Basses which were just a bit overpriced weren't interesting enough to post, along comes this. £3k worth of JapCrap bass?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Greco-Roland-Synclavier-Rare-Bass-Guitar-Synthesizer-/320607592839?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4aa5b3a187"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Greco-Roland-Synclav...=item4aa5b3a187[/url][/quote]

Don't have all the additional kit, but this is not dissimilar to my Akai Professional Project Nineteen Ninety Seven.

[Annoying Twit]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='999569' date='Oct 25 2010, 12:03 AM']That's the weirdness of Ebay for you right there - I'm sure I've never seen a 6-bolt EB-0 copy before (I would remember!) and now, they're like buses. Amaze.[/quote]

Here's a comment from the seller of the £750 one. I've edited out his first name.

[quote]You sharp-eyed little sausage you!!!! looks identical...well spotted. However he's selling his too cheap. All the best. *****. PS. To be honest I don't want to sell mine for a few quid, it's such a cute little bass guitar I'd sooner keep it. I've already got a collection of 40 to 50 basses hanging on every wall in the house so it's not a desperation sell, but if I get a decent offer, I'll buy the one you have mentioned and start again...LOL. Cheers and thanks for your interest.[/quote]

[Annoying Twit]

CMI bass sells for £99, then back on with a £99 starting bid. NPB?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Presicion-bass-VINTAGE-MADE-JAPAN-1980s-/120637918604?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c16948d8c"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Presicion-bass-V...=item1c16948d8c[/url]

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Presicion-bass-VINTAGE-MADE-JAPAN-1980s-/120637907948?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c169463ec"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Presicion-bass-V...=item1c169463ec[/url]

Edit: It has sold for £119 before. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Presicion-bass-VINTAGE-MADE-JAPAN-1980s-/120631084281?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c162c44f9"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CMI-Presicion-bass-V...=item1c162c44f9[/url]

Edit: Is it just me, or does quite a bit of the "information I found on the web" sound quite Bassassin-ish?

Edited October 25, 2010 by Annoying Twit

[Mr. Foxen]

I think bassassin should start including hidden messages in his information, like the first letter of a series of words spells out something funny.

[Happy Jack]

He already does - do try to keep up.

His last description of a 1953 Matsumoku Flying V law suit copy included the message "Paul is dead".

But only if you read it backwards.

On acid.

Yeh man, like ... heavy.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='999912' date='Oct 25 2010, 12:32 PM']Edit: Is it just me, or does quite a bit of the "information I found on the web" sound quite Bassassin-ish?[/quote]
You probably post on the same forum he pinched it from! Anyway - you have to be [i]really[/i] on the ball to work out that what I'm talking about is absolutely arse-all to do with his poxy bass.

And that's the beauty of hidden messages.

Or is it the horror? I never was clear about that part.

J.

[razze06]

[url="http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/43/67496843.html"]Is this JapCrap?[/url] Or is it just modern...

On gumtree edinburgh

[razze06]

[quote name='razze06' post='1001088' date='Oct 26 2010, 01:23 PM'][url="http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/43/67496843.html"]Is this JapCrap?[/url] Or is it just modern...

On gumtree edinburgh[/quote]

[url="http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalogs/Tokai-Volume1-Original-Series-catalog.pdf"]http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalo...ies-catalog.pdf[/url]

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I may go for this...

[Bassassin]

[quote name='razze06' post='1001094' date='Oct 26 2010, 01:30 PM'][url="http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalogs/Tokai-Volume1-Original-Series-catalog.pdf"]http://www.tokairegistry.com/images/catalo...ies-catalog.pdf[/url]

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I may go for this...[/quote]
Oops - I mailed him last night...

As it happens these got discussed here a year or two ago - another BCer has one:

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26861"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26861[/url]

The Scumtree bass is an LBX60 with a humbucking pup (shown in the catalogue image in the thread) rather than the LBX50 on the Tokai site, which has a split coil pup. Can't see any other differences.

J.

[razze06]

[quote name='Bassassin' post='1001124' date='Oct 26 2010, 01:59 PM']Oops - I mailed him last night...

As it happens these got discussed here a year or two ago - another BCer has one:

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26861"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26861[/url]

The Scumtree bass is an LBX60 with a humbucking pup (shown in the catalogue image in the thread) rather than the LBX50 on the Tokai site, which has a split coil pup. Can't see any other differences.

J.[/quote]

Ah well, i texted him today, but no reply. Not a problem, let me know if you got it!

I noticed the pickup was different from the catalog after I posted it, Iwonder what it sounds like with the humbucker

[Bassassin]

[quote name='razze06' post='1001129' date='Oct 26 2010, 02:04 PM']Ah well, i texted him today, but no reply. Not a problem, let me know if you got it!

I noticed the pickup was different from the catalog after I posted it, Iwonder what it sounds like with the humbucker[/quote]
Marco - if you fancy it, go for it, it's not like I need any basses! Realistically I probably would tidy it up, play it for a few weeks & then sell it on. I'll mail the guy and tell him you're interested, & he'll likely text you back.

J.