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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1078972' date='Jan 5 2011, 06:46 PM']Alembic. I've no idea how much these sell for, so can't comment on the price. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120667986527?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c185f5a5f"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c185f5a5f[/url][/quote]
It does say Alembic copy in the description, but surely this should be pulled for spamming? After all, an old listing of mine for a G&L L2000 by Leo Fender (exactly what it said on the headstock) was pulled for spamming, and it was an instrument actually built by the guy it name-checked!

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1079145' date='Jan 5 2011, 08:45 PM']I'm not convinced that Alembic would be flattered by the comparison ...[/quote]
If my experience of Kasugas is anything to go on this will be an excellent bass, assuming it's been looked after - easily as good as anything comparable from the likes of Fujigen or Matsumoku.

Alembic copies though - this is what you want!





Built by Kawai & sold as Kawai & Fernandes, & probably a good few others.

J.

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Not JapCrap (we really need an Italian Stallion thread running) but I had to put this one up:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.it/MAGNIFICO-BASSO-EKO-MDEL-BUXOM-VINTAGE-ANNI-60-/220717362006?pt=Bassi&hash=item3363c7ab56"]http://cgi.ebay.it/MAGNIFICO-BASSO-EKO-MDE...=item3363c7ab56[/url]

I just love the idea of calling a bass "Buxom".

:)

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='1080941' date='Jan 7 2011, 12:18 PM']If my experience of Kasugas is anything to go on this will be an excellent bass, assuming it's been looked after - easily as good as anything comparable from the likes of Fujigen or Matsumoku.[/quote]

Is it good enough to justify the seller listing it four times over?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669289060?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c18733a64"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c18733a64[/url]
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669288895?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c187339bf"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c187339bf[/url]
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669288704?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c18733900"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c18733900[/url]
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669288483?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c18733823"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c18733823[/url]

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Jedson self-build waiting to happen:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short-Scale-BASS-GUITAR-BODY-Japan-MIJ-/400186595197?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5d2cfad77d"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short...=item5d2cfad77d[/url]

plus

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short-Scale-BASS-GUITAR-NECK-Japan-MIJ-/400186592925?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5d2cface9d"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short...=item5d2cface9d[/url]

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Very nice Jedson short-scale SG at £99 BiN.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-Bass-Guitar-1960s-Vintage-/300514043431?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item45f8086627"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-B...=item45f8086627[/url]

I'm all bassed out at the moment, or I'd have had this like a shot.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1085495' date='Jan 11 2011, 01:50 PM']Very nice Jedson short-scale SG at £99 BiN.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-Bass-Guitar-1960s-Vintage-/300514043431?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item45f8086627"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-B...=item45f8086627[/url]

I'm all bassed out at the moment, or I'd have had this like a shot.[/quote]
I do like these - I have the guitar version of this & they're an interesting & quirky take on the SG/EB, pretty well-made too. I think they're quite early, '70-'72-ish, certainly pre-dating the more accurate JapCrap copies. They appear with a few different names & are most common unbranded, but for the anoraks, this one's a Jedson 4454 Scimitar.

Bit of a bargain, too - the Jedson name makes it a bit more desirable than this one:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300509706599"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=300509706599[/url]

Although this one had a BIN of £75 - until some tit bid on it! :)

J.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1088447' date='Jan 13 2011, 07:02 PM']Nice CSL bass, shame about the price. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CSL-Ibanez-Original-1975-Jazz-Bass-Fujigen-MIJ-Vintage-/280615437059?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4155fbc303"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CSL-Ibanez-Original-...=item4155fbc303[/url][/quote]
Ridiculous, ludicrous overprice - what does he think it is - a JV Squier? :)

Anyway, apart from the finish (and the body material - this one ain't solid wood, whatever it's made from) it's the same as my CSL Jazz was before I modded it. I absolutely love the neck on mine, but wouldn't pay £445 for it! Worth mentioning that these are late 70s/early 80s, [url="http://www.ibanez.co.jp/anniversary/51/1.jpg"]were also sold branded as Cimar[/url] and might not have been Fujigen products.

I paid £60 for mine and another BCer recently PM'd me about one the same as mine (solid mahogany body) he picked up for under £100. I would think £150 - £175 would be a tiny bit more realistic for this example!

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='1088706' date='Jan 13 2011, 10:45 PM']Ridiculous, ludicrous overprice ... I would think £150 - £175 would be a tiny bit more realistic for this example![/quote]
So, a bit less that what he paid for it?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290518930873"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=290518930873[/url]

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[quote name='noelk27' post='1088839' date='Jan 14 2011, 02:08 AM']So, a bit less that what he paid for it?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290518930873"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=290518930873[/url][/quote]
Excellent detective work! :) I think he's going to find this attempt at profiteering just a little bit less rewarding than he expected.

I've swapped a couple of messages with him about this before I found out his "true identity". Might have a little innocent fun if he responds to my last one - although I doubt if he will...

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='1088840' date='Jan 14 2011, 02:15 AM']Excellent detective work! :) ... I've swapped a couple of messages with him about this before I found out his "true identity".[/quote]
You took him up on his offer to provide references then? Oh, and as for the investigative work, I cannot lie, John (BB2000) is BC's very own Gil Grissom.

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[quote name='noelk27' post='1089101' date='Jan 14 2011, 11:19 AM']You took him up on his offer to provide references then? Oh, and as for the investigative work, I cannot lie, John (BB2000) is BC's very own Gil Grissom.[/quote]
All I did was point out that as an owner of one of these I'd done a bit of research & found out they were identical to Cimar-branded basses from 1980 - & linked him to a catalogue scan to prove it, so it wasn't the early 70s Ibanez he was trying to claim. I also pointed out there were a lot of things about them that suggest that while they were sourced via Hoshino, they quite likely didn't come from Fujigen. Not what he wanted to hear! :)

*Edit* Just checked my Fleabay messages & he did get back to me - he's slightly amended the listing & knocked a massive £20 off the BIN - it would seem a bit harsh to "out" him right now. I wonder if his "research" has led him here?

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='1089214' date='Jan 14 2011, 12:29 PM']All I did was point out that ... they were identical to Cimar-branded basses from 1980 ... I also pointed out there were a lot of things about them that suggest that while they were sourced via Hoshino, they quite likely didn't come from Fujigen. Not what he wanted to hear! :)[/quote]
A bit like the Shiro = Aria = Matsumoku logic that some people apply. As for our eBay friend, he'd have simply assumed that you were attempting to soften him up, throwing a few curve balls, to get him to part with this long-cherished prized possession he's owned for the last week, or two.

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Getting a bit Rail-ed out on eBay at the moment:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westone-Rail-/170591987639?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27b81327b7"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westone-Rail-/170591...=item27b81327b7[/url]

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260707619225&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url]

Both are outrageously over-priced.

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