noelk27 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 [quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1078972' date='Jan 5 2011, 06:46 PM']Alembic. I've no idea how much these sell for, so can't comment on the price. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120667986527?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c185f5a5f"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c185f5a5f[/url][/quote] It does say Alembic copy in the description, but surely this should be pulled for spamming? After all, an old listing of mine for a G&L L2000 by Leo Fender (exactly what it said on the headstock) was pulled for spamming, and it was an instrument actually built by the guy it name-checked! Quote
mr.sibs Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Thought I would cheekily put in my Antoria, available on the forum! Enjoy [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=116514&st=0#entry1072909"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...=0#entry1072909[/url] Quote
Bassassin Posted January 7, 2011 Author Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='1079145' date='Jan 5 2011, 08:45 PM']I'm not convinced that Alembic would be flattered by the comparison ...[/quote] If my experience of Kasugas is anything to go on this will be an excellent bass, assuming it's been looked after - easily as good as anything comparable from the likes of Fujigen or Matsumoku. Alembic copies though - this is what you want! Built by Kawai & sold as Kawai & Fernandes, & probably a good few others. J. Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 But presumably weighing 12lbs each ... Quote
chaypup Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Word up! [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Cameo-Deluxe-Bass-Teisco-Kawai-Ibanez-60s-/150544000689?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item230d1f26b1#ht_500wt_951"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Cameo-Deluxe...b1#ht_500wt_951[/url] Quote
chaypup Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Nice Aria pro down in Bristol - as you can tell, I'm on the hunt this afternoon! [url="http://bristol.gumtree.com/bristol/77/71368877.html"]http://bristol.gumtree.com/bristol/77/71368877.html[/url] Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Not JapCrap (we really need an Italian Stallion thread running) but I had to put this one up: [url="http://cgi.ebay.it/MAGNIFICO-BASSO-EKO-MDEL-BUXOM-VINTAGE-ANNI-60-/220717362006?pt=Bassi&hash=item3363c7ab56"]http://cgi.ebay.it/MAGNIFICO-BASSO-EKO-MDE...=item3363c7ab56[/url] I just love the idea of calling a bass "Buxom". Quote
noelk27 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1080941' date='Jan 7 2011, 12:18 PM']Alembic copies though - this is what you want![/quote] Yours, Mr Assassin? Quote
Bassassin Posted January 8, 2011 Author Posted January 8, 2011 [quote name='noelk27' post='1081634' date='Jan 7 2011, 11:10 PM']Yours, Mr Assassin?[/quote] If only! J. Quote
noelk27 Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1081705' date='Jan 8 2011, 12:38 AM']If only! [/quote] Pity. Was going to suggest you sold it to me! Quote
Annoying Twit Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bassassin' post='1080941' date='Jan 7 2011, 12:18 PM']If my experience of Kasugas is anything to go on this will be an excellent bass, assuming it's been looked after - easily as good as anything comparable from the likes of Fujigen or Matsumoku.[/quote] Is it good enough to justify the seller listing it four times over? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669289060?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c18733a64"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c18733a64[/url] [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669288895?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c187339bf"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c187339bf[/url] [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669288704?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c18733900"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c18733900[/url] [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-BASS-Vintage-THRU-NECK-JAPAN-/120669288483?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c18733823"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALEMBIC-Pro-Martin-B...=item1c18733823[/url] Edited January 8, 2011 by Annoying Twit Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Jedson self-build waiting to happen: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short-Scale-BASS-GUITAR-BODY-Japan-MIJ-/400186595197?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5d2cfad77d"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short...=item5d2cfad77d[/url] plus [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short-Scale-BASS-GUITAR-NECK-Japan-MIJ-/400186592925?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item5d2cface9d"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-JEDSON-Short...=item5d2cface9d[/url] Quote
Annoying Twit Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Vantage VS600B. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vantage-VS600B-MIJ-Matsumoku-Factory-/170588663761?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27b7e06fd1"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vantage-VS600B-MIJ-M...=item27b7e06fd1[/url] Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Very nice Jedson short-scale SG at £99 BiN. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-Bass-Guitar-1960s-Vintage-/300514043431?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item45f8086627"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-B...=item45f8086627[/url] I'm all bassed out at the moment, or I'd have had this like a shot. Quote
Bassassin Posted January 11, 2011 Author Posted January 11, 2011 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='1085495' date='Jan 11 2011, 01:50 PM']Very nice Jedson short-scale SG at £99 BiN. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-Bass-Guitar-1960s-Vintage-/300514043431?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item45f8086627"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jedson-Short-Scale-B...=item45f8086627[/url] I'm all bassed out at the moment, or I'd have had this like a shot.[/quote] I do like these - I have the guitar version of this & they're an interesting & quirky take on the SG/EB, pretty well-made too. I think they're quite early, '70-'72-ish, certainly pre-dating the more accurate JapCrap copies. They appear with a few different names & are most common unbranded, but for the anoraks, this one's a Jedson 4454 Scimitar. Bit of a bargain, too - the Jedson name makes it a bit more desirable than this one: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300509706599"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=300509706599[/url] Although this one had a BIN of £75 - until some tit bid on it! J. Quote
Jerry_B Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 [url="http://www.gumtree.com/london/97/71721897.html"]...'probably a Tiesco...[/url]...? Quote
Annoying Twit Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Nice CSL bass, shame about the price. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CSL-Ibanez-Original-1975-Jazz-Bass-Fujigen-MIJ-Vintage-/280615437059?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4155fbc303"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CSL-Ibanez-Original-...=item4155fbc303[/url] Quote
Bassassin Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1088447' date='Jan 13 2011, 07:02 PM']Nice CSL bass, shame about the price. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CSL-Ibanez-Original-1975-Jazz-Bass-Fujigen-MIJ-Vintage-/280615437059?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4155fbc303"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CSL-Ibanez-Original-...=item4155fbc303[/url][/quote] Ridiculous, ludicrous overprice - what does he think it is - a JV Squier? Anyway, apart from the finish (and the body material - this one ain't solid wood, whatever it's made from) it's the same as my CSL Jazz was before I modded it. I absolutely love the neck on mine, but wouldn't pay £445 for it! Worth mentioning that these are late 70s/early 80s, [url="http://www.ibanez.co.jp/anniversary/51/1.jpg"]were also sold branded as Cimar[/url] and might not have been Fujigen products. I paid £60 for mine and another BCer recently PM'd me about one the same as mine (solid mahogany body) he picked up for under £100. I would think £150 - £175 would be a tiny bit more realistic for this example! J. Quote
noelk27 Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1088706' date='Jan 13 2011, 10:45 PM']Ridiculous, ludicrous overprice ... I would think £150 - £175 would be a tiny bit more realistic for this example![/quote] So, a bit less that what he paid for it? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290518930873"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=290518930873[/url] Quote
Bassassin Posted January 14, 2011 Author Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='noelk27' post='1088839' date='Jan 14 2011, 02:08 AM']So, a bit less that what he paid for it? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290518930873"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=290518930873[/url][/quote] Excellent detective work! I think he's going to find this attempt at profiteering just a little bit less rewarding than he expected. I've swapped a couple of messages with him about this before I found out his "true identity". Might have a little innocent fun if he responds to my last one - although I doubt if he will... J. Quote
noelk27 Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1088840' date='Jan 14 2011, 02:15 AM']Excellent detective work! ... I've swapped a couple of messages with him about this before I found out his "true identity".[/quote] You took him up on his offer to provide references then? Oh, and as for the investigative work, I cannot lie, John (BB2000) is BC's very own Gil Grissom. Quote
Bassassin Posted January 14, 2011 Author Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) [quote name='noelk27' post='1089101' date='Jan 14 2011, 11:19 AM']You took him up on his offer to provide references then? Oh, and as for the investigative work, I cannot lie, John (BB2000) is BC's very own Gil Grissom.[/quote] All I did was point out that as an owner of one of these I'd done a bit of research & found out they were identical to Cimar-branded basses from 1980 - & linked him to a catalogue scan to prove it, so it wasn't the early 70s Ibanez he was trying to claim. I also pointed out there were a lot of things about them that suggest that while they were sourced via Hoshino, they quite likely didn't come from Fujigen. Not what he wanted to hear! *Edit* Just checked my Fleabay messages & he did get back to me - he's slightly amended the listing & knocked a massive £20 off the BIN - it would seem a bit harsh to "out" him right now. I wonder if his "research" has led him here? J. Edited January 14, 2011 by Bassassin Quote
noelk27 Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1089214' date='Jan 14 2011, 12:29 PM']All I did was point out that ... they were identical to Cimar-branded basses from 1980 ... I also pointed out there were a lot of things about them that suggest that while they were sourced via Hoshino, they quite likely didn't come from Fujigen. Not what he wanted to hear! [/quote] A bit like the Shiro = Aria = Matsumoku logic that some people apply. As for our eBay friend, he'd have simply assumed that you were attempting to soften him up, throwing a few curve balls, to get him to part with this long-cherished prized possession he's owned for the last week, or two. Quote
Annoying Twit Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1979-Ibanez-Roadster-Bass-VINTAGE-/120671862647?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item1c189a7f77"]Ibanez Roadster restoration project.[/url] Edited January 14, 2011 by Annoying Twit Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Getting a bit Rail-ed out on eBay at the moment: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westone-Rail-/170591987639?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27b81327b7"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westone-Rail-/170591...=item27b81327b7[/url] [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260707619225&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url] Both are outrageously over-priced. Quote
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