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Vintage MIJ (formerly J@pCr@p) Spotting


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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1103319' date='Jan 26 2011, 10:56 AM']I'd say this is worth about £350. I made an offer of considerably less, which was turned down within seconds. If anyone is thinking of buying it, hopefully my lowball offer may have prodded the seller a few millimetres towards reality.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260727468767"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260727468767[/url][/quote]
Ross - spotted that last night and didn't bother PMing you because of his eye-watering price. However - [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120656532460"]did you see what he paid for it in December[/url]? :)

No idea why I never spotted that first time around, though.

J.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1103319' date='Jan 26 2011, 10:56 AM']I'd say this is worth about £350. I made an offer of considerably less, which was turned down within seconds. If anyone is thinking of buying it, hopefully my lowball offer may have prodded the seller a few millimetres towards reality.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260727468767"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260727468767[/url][/quote]

It is a lovely bit of bookmatching on the top, and it looks like it's matched on the headstock as well (!) so lovely craftsmanship, but yes I agree about the value. Especially having just seen December's issue eBay Bargains Monthly (thanks John!).

I also just had my lowball offer declined in a matter of approx. 90 seconds. Ho hum.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='1103434' date='Jan 26 2011, 12:04 PM']Ross - spotted that last night and didn't bother PMing you because of his eye-watering price. However - [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120656532460"]did you see what he paid for it in December[/url]? :)

No idea why I never spotted that first time around, though.

J.[/quote]

Bugger! How did I miss that one!! :)

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[quote name='FlatEric' post='1104711' date='Jan 27 2011, 08:09 AM']Bugger! How did I miss that one!! :)[/quote]

I bid £257 on it. Less than it's worth, but it's a matter of cash I can spend more than the value of the bass. Until the last two minutes it was only £150 something, and I was watching it VERY INTENTLY. Then it started going up.

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Here's a new game for this thread. You post an ebay listing, and other readers have to spot the wildly inaccurate "fact" mentioned in the listing. I'll start: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-thunder-1-/250763623780?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a62ad3d64"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-...=item3a62ad3d64[/url]

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1105490' date='Jan 27 2011, 07:58 PM']Here's a new game for this thread. You post an ebay listing, and other readers have to spot the wildly inaccurate "fact" mentioned in the listing. I'll start: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-thunder-1-/250763623780?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a62ad3d64"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-...=item3a62ad3d64[/url][/quote]

Mine doesn't have the distortion OR sound knob.... :)
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Anybody know anythything abouut Ridgewood ?

Bought this for my daughter a few years ago, It plays well, similar looks anf feel to to a passive Bass Collection, although not the same quality of finishing. Doesnt sound too bad either.

Never seen one before or since.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1105490' date='Jan 27 2011, 07:58 PM']Here's a new game for this thread. You post an ebay listing, and other readers have to spot the wildly inaccurate "fact" mentioned in the listing. I'll start: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-thunder-1-/250763623780?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a62ad3d64"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-...=item3a62ad3d64[/url][/quote]
Plenty of scope here - where do you want me to start?

How about: there are at least two different basses in the photos. Hmm.

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='1105739' date='Jan 28 2011, 12:17 AM']Plenty of scope here - where do you want me to start?

How about: there are at least two different basses in the photos. Hmm.[/quote]
Yea, the top grain in the first and second photos is totally different.

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The bridges are certainly not the same, but they are from different years & there are some obvious changes. The bridge on the 1st pic is a bent-tin style, while the other one's cast, probably brass. The heel ends of the necks are different too - one's rounded & the other's square.

That's actually some lovely grain on the second pic - although as the ad stands, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

J.

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[quote name='Slipperydick' post='1105563' date='Jan 27 2011, 08:55 PM']Anybody know anythything abouut Ridgewood ?

Bought this for my daughter a few years ago, It plays well, similar looks anf feel to to a passive Bass Collection, although not the same quality of finishing. Doesnt sound too bad either.

Never seen one before or since.

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[i]Nobody[/i][b][/b] heard of em ?

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[quote name='Slipperydick' post='1106168' date='Jan 28 2011, 01:27 PM'][i]Nobody[/i][b][/b] heard of em ?[/quote]
It's not vintage Japanese & I don't think it's a particularly old bass. No, never heard of Ridgewood, likely a small importer brand, there are literally thousands of them.

J.

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:) [quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1105490' date='Jan 27 2011, 07:58 PM']Here's a new game for this thread. You post an ebay listing, and other readers have to spot the wildly inaccurate "fact" mentioned in the listing. I'll start: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-thunder-1-/250763623780?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a62ad3d64"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-westone-...=item3a62ad3d64[/url][/quote]
The bass in the first picture has 4 srings where as the bass in the second picture has 3 strings as mentioned in the listing.

Jazz, I don't think so.
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"Tokai Hondo"?????? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-Hondo-Precision-Bass-Guitar-Orig-case-/290528382251?pt=Guitar&hash=item43a4d74d2b"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-Hondo-Precisio...=item43a4d74d2b[/url]

Edit: Basschat discussion here: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/lofiversion/index.php/t80013.html"]http://basschat.co.uk/lofiversion/index.php/t80013.html[/url]

There's evidence on the web that the Hondo II "Professional series" strats were made by Tokai.But of course there is evidence of all sorts of guff on the internet. This page suggests Matsumoku: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-640402.html"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/inde...p/t-640402.html[/url] Of course it isn't guaranteed that the bass being sold is a professional series, however.

Edit: Headstock of much cheaper Hondo II Professional sold a few days ago actually says "Professional" on it. The headstock in the bass in the first link in this post doesn't. [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290524333124&nma=true&rt=nc&si=3expLSfhf26wtbGKaY2vmVx0M64%253D"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...Y2vmVx0M64%253D[/url]

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1106961' date='Jan 29 2011, 07:39 AM']Edit: Headstock of much cheaper Hondo II Professional sold a few days ago actually says "Professional" on it. The headstock in the bass in the first link in this post doesn't. [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290524333124&nma=true&rt=nc&si=3expLSfhf26wtbGKaY2vmVx0M64%253D"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...Y2vmVx0M64%253D[/url][/quote]
It also says "Made In Japan", which realistically is what a Hondo needs to say in order for it to be considered not to be Korean, and probably plywood! That's actually a lovely bass, if a bit beat-up & well worth what it went for.

The other one's just your standard Samick-made Korean cheapo, as are the overwhelming majority of Hondos. Pretty much everything else I know about Hondos is already in the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=80013"]other thread[/url] you mentioned.

J.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='1106961' date='Jan 29 2011, 07:39 AM']Edit: Headstock of much cheaper Hondo II Professional sold a few days ago actually says "Professional" on it. ... [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290524333124&nma=true&rt=nc&si=3expLSfhf26wtbGKaY2vmVx0M64%253D"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...Y2vmVx0M64%253D[/url][/quote]
That neck plate isn't Matsumoku. The shaping on the heel of the neck also isn't particularly "Matsumoku" to my eye.

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[quote name='Paul S' post='1108193' date='Jan 30 2011, 02:56 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Westbury-Track-2-Bass-/250765848308?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a62cf2ef4"]Westbury Track 2[/url] popped up on eBay - I think you are a fan, Jon?[/quote]
Definitely - very typical good Matsumoku quality, the tort plate & German carved edge gives it more character (IMO) than similar Westones, Washburns & Vantages from the same factory, and they're fitted with a DiMarzio Model P as standard. Neck dive's not as bad as you'd expect with that body shape & they do look cool as f@ck. :)

The only thing to watch is the 3-point bridge - some of them have a base plate that can be prone to warping & cracking and a replacement (an Epiphone one will fit) can be hard to find & potentially pricey.

Apart from that, what's not to like?

J.

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I think that Westbury has been on the market before. Barwell is a small place, how many track 2 basses can there be there? If I remember correctly, it was on sale for £180, and I offered less. But more than the current start price however. No response. Now it's on for a start price of £100. Which I'd think is low enough such that it will sell.

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