B.I.L.F.

[thebeat]

[quote name='ped' post='727046' date='Jan 27 2010, 10:56 PM']Jesus[/quote]


where?!

[Rich]

[quote name='readonly' post='727351' date='Jan 28 2010, 10:34 AM']I would rather look at a girls m*nge than a bass. Sorry.[/quote]
Good for you. There are hundreds of sites that will help you out with that. This isn't one of them. Sorry.

[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='Rich' post='727431' date='Jan 28 2010, 11:39 AM']Good for you. There are hundreds of sites that will help you out with that. This isn't one of them. Sorry.[/quote]


Reminds me of an old saying "if you was to ban porn on the internet there would only be one site left called www.bringbacktheporn.com"

[MacDaddy]

I find it interesting that the disparaging opinions towards to the MILF thread were not also directed towards the FILF thread.

Sexist that is.

[blamelouis]

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='727483' date='Jan 28 2010, 12:43 PM']I find it interesting that the disparaging opinions towards to the MILF thread were not also directed towards the FILF thread.

Sexist that is.[/quote]
+1
I'd say the only ones who complained were the male right on brigade.

[skankdelvar]

[quote name='readonly' post='727351' date='Jan 28 2010, 10:34 AM']I would rather look at a girls m*nge than a bass. Sorry.[/quote]
Welcome to BC. When you see your first one, you could post in 'Reviews' under Miscellaneous [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showforum=17"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showforum=17[/url].

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='727340' date='Jan 28 2010, 10:22 AM']I'm not sure how to react to these comments, and probably shoudn't, but I get the feeling this is becoming personal.[/quote]

Notwithstanding the old codgers' scrap that occurred with Silddx (those Zimmers can be lethal in the right hands), I don't think anyone's having a pop at Pete in particular. He started this thread with humourous intentions, but the fall-out from the others hadn't really settled, so this one was doomed to controversy from the outset.

Basically, some people don't like certain postings - and I'm thinking particularly of the earlier -I.L.F threads. Objectors may be motivated by issues of personal credential, by aesthetic distaste or by concerns about exclusion. Either way, such threads are a divisive, hot-button topic and often lead to bad feeling and conflict. For that reason alone, the Mods often shut them down. They enforce the rules we all sign up to when we join.

Members might counter that this is all in good fun and that one shouldn't be so sensitive. Nevertheless the mods have posted that some female members don't enjoy the presence of such topics. I'm aware of no reason to disbelieve them. We're a community; as in real life, that involves respecting the feelings of others, even if it means we have to forgo certain pleasures. So why upset another member simply to assuage one's own preferences? It's just good manners.

Most of us can accept this trade-off, but a few would prefer to make an issue of it.They complain about 'free speech' and 'Political Correctness', attack other members and bitch about the mods, who do an excellent job for no reward. To what end? To get their own way at the expense of other members? The 'right' to post a few images? So they can shout "No - I'm Spartacus!"

IMO, the marginal benefit of such threads to a minority is less important than the detrimental effect on the whole. It's a numbers game and they're on the losing end of it.

How do I feel about these threads? Personally, I'm unoffended but I recognise the potential for a negative outcome. As to the motivation for posting such threads, well, [i]that[/i] intrigues me.

Issues of personal credential? Aesthetic pleasure? Concerns about exclusion?

Edited January 28, 2010 by skankdelvar

[waynepunkdude]

Personally I see Off Topic as a group of friend in a family pub because it is open to all ages, now a bit of football, advice, politics (friendly) or miscellaneous chat is all good but if you were in a pub with your family and friends and someone turned around and said "you know who I'd like to f*** ?" it would be deemed unacceptable,.

[Pete Academy]

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='727509' date='Jan 28 2010, 01:02 PM']Welcome to BC. When you see your first one, you could post in 'Reviews' under Miscellaneous [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showforum=17"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showforum=17[/url].



Notwithstanding the old codgers' scrap that occurred with Silddx (those Zimmers can be lethal in the right hands), I don't think anyone's having a pop at Pete in particular. He started this thread with humourous intentions, but the fall-out from the others hadn't really settled, so this one was doomed to controversy from the outset.

Basically, some people don't like certain postings - and I'm thinking particularly of the earlier -I.L.F threads. Objectors may be motivated by issues of personal credential, by aesthetic distaste or by concerns about exclusion. Either way, such threads are a divisive, hot-button topic and often lead to bad feeling and conflict. For that reason alone, the Mods often shut them down. They enforce the rules we all sign up to when we join.

Members might counter that this is all in good fun and that one shouldn't be so sensitive. Nevertheless the mods have posted that some female members don't enjoy the presence of such topics. I'm aware of no reason to disbelieve them. We're a community; as in real life, that involves respecting the feelings of others, even if it means we have to forgo certain pleasures. So why upset another member simply to assuage one's own preferences? It's just good manners.

Most of us can accept this trade-off, but a few would prefer to make an issue of it.They complain about 'free speech' and 'Political Correctness', attack other members and bitch about the mods, who do an excellent job for no reward. To what end? To get their own way at the expense of other members? The 'right' to post a few images? So they can shout "No - I'm Spartacus!"

IMO, the marginal benefit of such threads to a minority is less important than the detrimental effect on the whole. It's a numbers game and they're on the losing end of it.

How do I feel about these threads? Personally, I'm unoffended but I recognise the potential for a negative outcome. As to the motivation for posting such threads, well, [i]that[/i] intrigues me.

Issues of personal credential? Aesthetic pleasure? Concerns about exclusion?[/quote]

Very good points, as usual, Mr Delvar. Or may I call you Skank, as I'm now a Very Advanced Member?

I fully understand the admins' responsibilty and what a hard job it must be to police this forum efficiently. I never doubted that.

Just a bit of schoolboy humour. Sorry if the thread offended anyone. I was smacked and sent to bed with no supper and just my tattered copy of Viz to read.

[blamelouis]

As the starter of the original MILF and FILF threads i'd like to say they were done as a bit of fun.
They were copied from another site that i use regarding James Joyce where they were popular as a bit of harmless craic.
I did say in the original post that people should stay within site rules because i didnt want them to be seen as threads were people could have a go or grind an axe.
Sadly thats what the MILF one became with posters like "PETE ACADEMY" taking negative feedback and fallout on threads like this ,apoligies to pete.
If any women were offended then i'm sorry that was not the intention , if any blokes were offended then tough.
My wife is finding the uproar hilarious as it was her that suggested Sting as a FILF.

I apologise to the mods if this has created undue hassle for them i know how hard the job of mod is which is why i didnt run to them with p.m's whineing about "my threads being locked"
You do a good job and dont need this crap ...sorry .

[MacDaddy]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='727514' date='Jan 28 2010, 01:06 PM']Personally I see Off Topic as a group of friend in a family pub because it is open to all ages, now a bit of football, advice, politics (friendly) or miscellaneous chat is all good but if you were in a pub with your family and friends and someone turned around and said "you know who I'd like to f*** ?" it would be deemed unacceptable,.[/quote]

I was with a group of friends in a family pub and a bloke said that to me. He then said 'your Mum!'.

I said 'Dad you're drunk go home'.

[Johngh]

[quote name='blamelouis' post='727541' date='Jan 28 2010, 01:26 PM']As the starter of the original MILF and FILF threads i'd like to say they were done as a bit of fun.
They were copied from another site that i use regarding James Joyce where they were popular as a bit of harmless craic.
I did say in the original post that people should stay within site rules because i didnt want them to be seen as threads were people could have a go or grind an axe.
Sadly thats what the MILF one became with posters like "PETE ACADEMY" taking negative feedback and fallout on threads like this ,apoligies to pete.
If any women were offended then i'm sorry that was not the intention , if any blokes were offended then tough.
My wife is finding the uproar hilarious as it was her that suggested Sting as a FILF.

I apologise to the mods if this has created undue hassle for them i know how hard the job of mod is which is why i didnt run to them with p.m's whineing about "my threads being locked"
You do a good job and dont need this crap ...sorry .[/quote]


Don't worry about it. Modding decisions are made jointly by the mods when it comes to closing threads, except in the case where it's a clear cut porno issue for example, then a mod will normally close and delete the thread immediately.

Can I suggest we all move on, enjoy the forum and please get this thread back on topic.

Thanks

[harvey1-8]

Back on topic you say?

This one:



Who ended up with it when it was for sale?

[birdy]

[quote name='Rich' post='727228' date='Jan 28 2010, 08:05 AM']Ask yourselves a simple question... how far would any of this sh*t have got on Talkbass.com? You think it's overly-PC here, that people jump at nothing and have no, ahem, 'sense of humour' here? Try a MILF thread over there and see what happens.[/quote]

Can we have a chicks at shows thread then as its allowed on Talkbass?

[url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598392"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598392[/url]

Steve

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='alexharvay' post='727594' date='Jan 28 2010, 01:51 PM']This one:

Who ended up with it when it was for sale?[/quote]

Thunderthumbs I believe.

[xilddx]

[quote name='blamelouis' post='727541' date='Jan 28 2010, 01:26 PM']As the starter of the original MILF and FILF threads i'd like to say they were done as a bit of fun.
They were copied from another site that i use regarding James Joyce where they were popular as a bit of harmless craic.[/quote]
I can't believe you had to copy them

[xilddx]

[quote name='birdy' post='727605' date='Jan 28 2010, 02:04 PM']Can we have a chicks at shows thread then as its allowed on Talkbass?

[url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598392"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=598392[/url]

Steve[/quote]

Have you seen this thread mate?

[waynepunkdude]

[quote name='silddx' post='727745' date='Jan 28 2010, 04:11 PM']Have you seen this thread mate?

[/quote]


Shame it's a lefty.

[Marvin]

[quote name='silddx' post='727745' date='Jan 28 2010, 04:11 PM']Have you seen this thread mate? [/quote]
Is it me, or does that thread make no sense whatsoever? Like when you post on here one post leads to another bit like a story but that is just so random.

[hillbilly deluxe]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='727750' date='Jan 28 2010, 04:14 PM']Shame it's a lefty.[/quote]
where ?

[peteb]

[quote name='oldslapper' post='727232' date='Jan 28 2010, 08:21 AM']What??
So I'm likely to get kicked out of 2 bands I play in because I don't make comments to the female singers about the size of their t**ts, because that's what a proper musician does??
Next time I get a session playing for a female artsist I'll remember that because I'm a musician I must get a Bernard Manning joke book out and be sure to tell a few.
Glad I'm not "most musicians" mate, otherwise I might as well go back to scaffolding.......where no one cared if you didn't read the sun actually.
As for the site not having good debate, what this.....??
Personally, I like this site, it's a good community and pretty well managed.
There are plenty of other sites that sell gear, and plenty of forums that offer technical advice pertaining to specific manufacturers....

Anyway rant and brain fart over...but I just hate being told that I have to conform.....[/quote]
WTF - the point that I was trying to make is that most musicians tend not to be sensitive little flowers or easily offended - not that you have to turn into Bernard Manning to be in a band!

Strangely enough this does not seem to be an issue with the female singer in one of my bands and any risque humour is just as likely to come from her as anyone other band member.....
The fema

[xilddx]

[quote name='peteb' post='727946' date='Jan 28 2010, 06:43 PM']WTF - the point that I was trying to make is that most musicians tend not to be - not that you have to turn into Bernard Manning to be in a band!

Strangely enough this does not seem to be an issue with the female singer in one of my bands and any risque humour is just as likely to come from her as anyone other band member.....
The fema[/quote]

None of us is "sensitive little flowers or easily offended" mate. Some of the chat that goes on in some of my bands would probably make [u][i]you [/i][/u]wince or puke.

The point is if you want to talk about sex, you can do it without sounding like On The f***ing Buses. Circulating titillating pictures of women with decent cleavage on a bass forum [u][b]without a sense of irony[/b][/u] is about as 14 years old in the 1970s as I can think of. It's also interesting to note that those who say their MILF, FILF, BILF, etc. threads display a great sense of humour appear to lose that sense of humour at the first sign of criticism.

To be perfectly honest, you and BlameLouis come across like you grew up in a Catholic Convent. Stop just talking about [b]it [/b]and bloody do [b]it[/b], and do [b]it [/b]well, or she'll leave you like the last one did.

Edited January 28, 2010 by silddx

[witterth]

"It's also interesting to note that those who say their MILF, FILF, BILF, etc. threads display a great sense of humour appear to lose that sense of humour at the first sign of criticism."


Snort!!
that's so....

TYPICAL "RIK": " OH! God I'M SO FUNNY!!! you people are, dried up losers!! and just don't get me cos Im CRAZY!!! I just don't care what I say you know,...you know Im SO funny...all my mates say so and every thing....."

well, pretty spot on, really.

mind you, who likes a critic?

Edited January 28, 2010 by witterth

[blamelouis]

[quote name='silddx' post='727965' date='Jan 28 2010, 06:58 PM']To be perfectly honest, you and BlameLouis come across like you grew up in a Catholic Convent. Stop just talking about [b]it [/b]and bloody do [b]it[/b], and do [b]it [/b]well, or she'll leave you like the last one did.[/quote]
Sounds like a personal attack pal.
I expected more from you .

[xilddx]

[quote name='silddx' post='727965' date='Jan 28 2010, 06:58 PM']or she'll leave you like the last one did.[/quote]
I've had it pointed out that I might have been offensive here, and I would like it known that I was simply being humorous.

[xilddx]

[quote name='blamelouis' post='728028' date='Jan 28 2010, 08:00 PM']Sounds like a personal attack pal.
I expected more from you .[/quote]
Oops, we were posting at the same time so you wouldn't have seen my last post.

I was just being humorous mate, nothing personal. P'raps I should have but a wink smiley on there so you could interpret my sense of humour more easily.

BTW, more of what did you expect from me?

Edited January 28, 2010 by silddx