Dandelion Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I have a MiM Fender Jazz bass. I have heard about the legendary "Growl" How does one achieve this? Is it a bridge pickup thing? Will my stock Pups be able to recreate the "Growl"? Do the amp setting matter? Ta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Ooooh! I forgot.. Any good links to a good growl tone on youtube? Ta again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I've never understood or heard this Jazz growl. To me a Jazz is smooth and warm. Not growly. A Precision is aggresive and clanky and my Warwick growls but no Jazz I have owned growls. Maybe I am missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 It's simply down to playing on a soloed bridge pick up with the correct approach and adequate E.Q. The most agreeable example of the Jazz growl is almost everything Jaco played on: Who's got the better growl is purely down to personal preference, but as for a guide to what the Jazz bass growl is I think most of us would agree Jaco is the best place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbass116 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Victor Wooten's fingerstyle often has quite a growl, his foderas have a Jazz style bridge pup, which is probably the reason A jazz bass growl is a beautiful thing....for me.. Settings wise I usually have the neck pickup rolled off. On my 3 band eq practice amp, i've got bass on 6/10, mid on 6/10 and treble on 7 or 8/10, i also use a compressor aswell. strange settings i'm sure, but that's my interpretation of a growl However, it's a shame the wiring on my bass has basically said to me "yeah you can have that bridge pickup growl, you can also have some free feedback too!" ...damn my jazz bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbass116 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='jamesbass116' post='731965' date='Feb 1 2010, 05:43 PM']Victor Wooten's fingerstyle often has quite a growl, his foderas have a Jazz style bridge pup, which is probably the reason A jazz bass growl is a beautiful thing....for me.. Settings wise I usually have the neck pickup rolled off. On my 3 band eq practice amp, i've got bass on 6/10, mid on 6/10 and treble on 7 or 8/10, i also use a compressor aswell. strange settings i'm sure, but that's my interpretation of a growl However, it's a shame the wiring on my bass has basically said to me "yeah you can have that bridge pickup growl, you can also have some free feedback too!" ...damn my jazz bass[/quote] BY THE WAY, My bass is a MIM jazz as well, changed the pickups to seymour duncans, but i can remember those stock pickups giving off a good growl, you just need to find it is all haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blamelouis Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 NOBODY does GROWL like Darryll Jones . [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5kpG_jVXxw&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5kpG_jVXxw...feature=related[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Jaco didn't play on "In France they kiss on Main Street" (or on anything else from "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" for that matter) - it was Max Bennett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Linus27' post='731910' date='Feb 1 2010, 04:53 PM']I've never understood or heard this Jazz growl. To me a Jazz is smooth and warm. Not growly. A Precision is aggresive and clanky and my Warwick growls but no Jazz I have owned growls. Maybe I am missing something.[/quote] Ah ok, so thats what you say is the Jazz growl. To me I always thought of that as nasely and quite middy tone. You learn something new everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve A Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='RhysP' post='732055' date='Feb 1 2010, 06:50 PM']Jaco didn't play on "In France they kiss on Main Street" (or on anything else from "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" for that matter) - it was Max Bennett.[/quote] Jaco played on the live version as heard on the 'Shadows and Light' album. My girlfriend's dog has growl. Edited February 1, 2010 by Steve Amadeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Josh' post='731927' date='Feb 1 2010, 05:10 PM'] [/quote] A key part of that tone is looking really smug and wearing a silly hat so don't forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Josh' post='731927' date='Feb 1 2010, 05:10 PM']It's simply down to playing on a soloed bridge pick up with the correct approach and adequate E.Q. The most agreeable example of the Jazz growl is almost everything Jaco played on: [/quote] Check out that hyper-funky crowd (0.34)! They say everything about Weather Report for me. I disagree that Jaco's tone on this is growly. I would have thought using both pups would produce more growl, that's just distorted. I'll try to find an example of what I think is growl on yt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 For me it's that back pickup 'burp'. Obviously Jaco comes to mind first. I love the fact that you can have both pickups up full for a smooth sound for slap, and back off the front pickup for a burp. Marcus does this all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_B Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 The 'growl' will come across differently depending on whether you play with your fingers or a pick. I think this is one factor people should mention about themselves when describing such sounds from basses. I play with a pick, for example, and the growl seems to be more pronounced with the neck pup slightly rolled back in volume but the bridge pup up at 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Pete Academy' post='732134' date='Feb 1 2010, 08:03 PM']For me it's that back pickup 'burp'. Obviously Jaco comes to mind first. I love the fact that you can have both pickups up full for a smooth sound for slap, and back off the front pickup for a burp. Marcus does this all the time.[/quote] Ah so thats why I get the smooth sound as I have everything turned up to 11, both pickups, the tone, the lot. I just keep turning until it stops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 So it`s not a "growl". It is, in fact, a "Burp"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) So, if we are to get this right - A Jazz burps. A Warwick growls A Gibson EB3, I suggest then, farts. (Like the ones used by Bruce and Fraser, or were they EB0's?) If, that is we are describing bass sounds using bodily noises! Edited February 1, 2010 by Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorick Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Geddy Lee on the R30 and Rush in Rio dvds... now that's growl!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbass116 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='yorick' post='732177' date='Feb 1 2010, 08:38 PM']Geddy Lee on the R30 and Rush in Rio dvds... now that's growl!![/quote] +100000000000 oh how i love rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I have never heard Geddy's tone as "growl" but what a tone! By god I love RUSH too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Let's get this straight. Nasal "burp" a la Jaco is not [i]growl[/i]. Growl is gutteral, or at least tracheal. Not nasal. Growling is never done though your nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 So it could be classed as a" Honk?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Dandelion' post='732253' date='Feb 1 2010, 09:25 PM']So it could be classed as a" Honk?"[/quote] Ah yes, I do like a bit of honk. But I also like a bit of growl. To be honest, I think Jazz's are quite growly unplugged if you pluck em hard enough and fret them right. I think the growl is in the fingers. They're much more naturally aggressive like that (if you play them like that) than Ps are. I have to amplify Ps to get them all snarly. Edited February 1, 2010 by bigjohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='732265' date='Feb 1 2010, 09:36 PM']FTW. [/quote] Class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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