4000 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='Linus27' post='731910' date='Feb 1 2010, 04:53 PM']I've never understood or heard this Jazz growl. To me a Jazz is smooth and warm. Not growly. A Precision is aggresive and clanky and my Warwick growls but no Jazz I have owned growls. Maybe I am missing something.[/quote] I tend to agree. Jaco's sound is more burp than growl to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='732265' date='Feb 1 2010, 09:36 PM']FTW. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Assuming that you're all talking about the same thing...its a product of a specific band of frequencies being more prominent than others. The instrument alone isn't enough to get it in my experience, it also depends on how well the amp and speakers pass on that same set of frequencies. Those frequencies are typically boosted to a point on the verge of being overdriven and the overdrive is what gives the growl, preferably through the speakers more than the amp though. GK have a boost feature on their amps that is pretty much the same thing although I don't think their cabs contribute as much to the sound as they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kets Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 My old man has an original 60's Jazz Bass, which I love. I tried to take it home with me the last time I was there, claiming early inheritance and he growled. Is this what's mean by jazz bass "growl"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hit a dog with a Jazz bass you should get a growl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngh Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='732558' date='Feb 2 2010, 09:14 AM']Hit a dog with a Jazz bass you should get a growl.[/quote] That's not strickly true, I dinked my doggie's head with my Jazz when I was putting it on it's stand (the bass, not the dog ) and the little bugger bit me on the ankle ( the dog, not the bass) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_B Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I think there's a Dead Kennedys song along similar lines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I always considered that type of sound to eminate from the pick-ups being 'too' close to the strings and the circuits therefore running a little hot or the amp master volume vs. input vol. being set back to front (distortion). I never considered it to be peculiar to a Fender Jazz. I can get it on my Wal without any difficulty. Especially if the battery is running low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 [quote name='blamelouis' post='732053' date='Feb 1 2010, 06:49 PM']NOBODY does GROWL like Darryll Jones . [/quote] Never mind growl, thats some of the coolest slap playing I've ever heard, and a fabulous warm rich tone, probably both pickups maxed, and not too much treble (at least from the you tube vid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 This makes me laugh! How do you compare a burp to a growl? A clank to a .... The Daryl Jones clip is great, and his sound is cool - but I would never describe that as a "growl". Much too smooth. To me, the "Jazz growl" (if there is such a thing) is typified by Geddy Lee's sound. But is that more "zingy" I wonder? A "nasal snort" even? Whatever a growl actually is, I'm damned sure that my Status doesn't have it!! It just shows how subjective sound is - in hearing it and in describing it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Jean-Jacques Burnel. Now THAT'S growl!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Conan' post='733080' date='Feb 2 2010, 04:04 PM']It just shows how subjective sound is - in hearing it and in describing it!![/quote] On yer bikes the lot of you! This is growl, and I don't think you can get anywhere near it with a Jazz: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StP0_zbDIMo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StP0_zbDIMo[/url] Correction: Josh's France video, upon reflection, is very growly indeed. Edited February 2, 2010 by stevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alhbass Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 [quote name='stevie' post='733112' date='Feb 2 2010, 04:28 PM']On yer bikes the lot of you! This is growl, and I don't think you can get anywhere near it with a Jazz: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StP0_zbDIMo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StP0_zbDIMo[/url] Correction: Josh's France video, upon reflection, is very growly indeed.[/quote] +1 I've always associated growl with an active bass sound, and especially EBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 ere's a growler for ya! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY3aPIQ2Q9Q"]Danny Growler [/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al.B Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgREdUch2s4"]growler[/url] I've always thought that the bass player from the Killers gets quite a growly tone from his jazz. I think Geddy too has a growly tone. That's how I hear it anyway. Surely clank is Rickenbacker ?? do you want to see my growler ?? Edited February 3, 2010 by Al.B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growl Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 This is quite "Growly": [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SieIHSH53_M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SieIHSH53_M[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Growl' post='840313' date='May 17 2010, 10:31 PM']This is quite "Growly": [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SieIHSH53_M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SieIHSH53_M[/url][/quote] I thought Matt Freeman uses a P-bass? The only jazz i've seem him with, is a Geddy Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Fingers, played hard over the bridge pup if poss. Roll of the front pup and ideally a single coil, Growl isn't the most intuitive term, imv, though...but everyone knows what is meant by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I'd always understood the 'Jazz Growl' to be what happens when you have both pickups full-on - because the pickups are out of phase this results in a mid-range scoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMX Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) Pure jazz growl - particularly noticeable on the low E sections around 0:36. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TB_fi1fB3k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TB_fi1fB3k[/url] Edited May 18, 2010 by HMX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Interesting video! What's that all about?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMX Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 It's just Day of the Baphomets by Mars Volta set to clips from Apocalypto. Great song, but odd when I first heard it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skychaserhigh Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 All this growling and burping is very confusing !! I just like a bass to sound like a bass !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 [quote name='HMX' post='840703' date='May 18 2010, 11:59 AM']Pure jazz growl - particularly noticeable on the low E sections around 0:36. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TB_fi1fB3k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TB_fi1fB3k[/url][/quote] Yep - spot-on. That's nailed it for me. Though I think he uses a [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YLDb2hiLU"]pair of Dark Stars in his Jazz here[/url]? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 [quote name='skychaserhigh' post='841677' date='May 19 2010, 08:35 AM']All this growling and burping is very confusing !! I just like a bass to sound like a bass !![/quote] Of course! But then how would you compare the sounds of different basses? You have to admit that a P sounds different to a J, and to a Rickenbacker, and a Jaydee, a Status.... etc. If it weren't for subjective words like "Growl" how would we compare tones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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