jonnyfastfingers Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) I used to play with my old band a few years ago and had a Rickenbacker and Stingray. We played indie and rock, and they hated the Stingray sound but loved the Rick, I prefered playing the Stingray but the sound of the Rick. The thing is when I left the band the bassist who replaced me used a MM Sub and they thought that sounded great, but I could only achieve a trebley-punchy effect with my Stingray? Now we've reformed and I am using an American Deluxe P-Pass which gives me an all-round sound that I'm hapy with. I am looking to get another guitar to give me some variation and don't know what to get? I could get a Jazz but don't really want two Fenders but I really want something that will give me something the P-Bass can't. Logic is telling me to get a passive (as the P-Bass is active) and a thinner faster neck, therefore a Warwick although I have no experience with these. I'm quite confused and could do with peoples thoughts. Edited February 20, 2010 by jonnyfastfingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) [quote name='jonnyfastfingers' post='751624' date='Feb 20 2010, 10:37 AM']I used to play with my old band a few years ago and had a Rickenbacker and Stingray. We played indie and rock, and they hated the Stingray sound but loved the Rick, I prefered playing the Stingray but the sound of the Rick. The thing is when I left the band the bassist who replaced me used a MM Sub and they thought that sounded great, but I could only achieve a trebley-punchy effect with my Stingray? Now we've reformed and I am using an American Deluxe P-Pass which gives me an all-round sound that I'm hapy with. I am looking to get another guitar to give me some variation and don't know what to get? I could get a Jazz but don't really want two Fenders but I really want something that will give me something the P-Bass can't. Logic is telling me to get a passive (as the P-Bass is active) and a thinner faster neck, therefore a Warwick although I have no experience with these. I'm quite confused and could do with peoples thoughts.[/quote] Try a Warwick Corvette $$. It will shake your world. It has a passive switch too, but what's the point? Mine can be a complete thug or a sweet and gentle as a buttercup at the flick of a switch and the turn of a button. Edited February 20, 2010 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny-79 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 The EB bongo would be my choice, either a HH or a HS model, but the Warwick $$ is pretty nice to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 if you want a rick-ish sound, a warwick $$ probably wouldn't be the way i'd go.... ricks have a nice mid-honk, something my $$ doesn't really have that much of, at least get something with a 3 band EQ. Also warwicks don't really have "fast" necks... you really want to try before you buy with warwick, seriously. They're nothing like ricks or stingrays (i find both ricks and stingrays absolute pigs to play though, so you may like a 'wick like i do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 i'm completely biased against Riki's and for Warwicks. Don't understand the appeal of Riki's either aesthetically or sonically. I'd stick with the Fender if you want an all rounder and the Warwick if you want to go off on a tangent. It doesn't really matter though because we all now know that core tone is a load of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='Marvin' post='752154' date='Feb 20 2010, 08:13 PM']i'm completely biased against Riki's and for Warwicks. Don't understand the appeal of Riki's either aesthetically or sonically. I'd stick with the Fender if you want an all rounder and the Warwick if you want to go off on a tangent. It doesn't really matter though because [b]we all now know that core tone is a load of crap[/b]. [/quote] indeed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Out of the three you mentioned, the Warwick will probably be the most versatile IMO. All 3 have their own distinct tones but Warwicks (especially the $$s) just seem to have a much broader spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERMITNT Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) stingrayHH is the solution all the tones you want look for your amplification as well Edited February 20, 2010 by KERMITNT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh3184 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='budget bassist' post='752071' date='Feb 20 2010, 07:09 PM']if you want a rick-ish sound, a warwick $$ probably wouldn't be the way i'd go.... ricks have a nice mid-honk, something my $$ doesn't really have that much of, at least get something with a 3 band EQ. Also warwicks don't really have "fast" necks... you really want to try before you buy with warwick, seriously. They're nothing like ricks or stingrays (i find both ricks and stingrays absolute pigs to play though, so you may like a 'wick like i do).[/quote] Oddly enough I found that my corvette $$ had one of the fastest necks I've ever played! Each to their own of course Certainly agree with the try before you buy though, they seem to polarise opinion (I just happen to be a lover of them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Get all three and then you need not worry!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='jonnyfastfingers' post='751624' date='Feb 20 2010, 10:37 AM']The thing is when I left the band the bassist who replaced me used a MM Sub and they thought that sounded great, but I could only achieve a trebley-punchy effect with my Stingray?[/quote] If your Stingray was a 3-band EQ model, that could make a huge difference, because the SUBs were all 2-band, which are voiced really quite differently. Also, IIRC, the SUB pickups were wired in series and the Stingray's in parallel. A MM Sterling might be an option for you: it gives you the pickup-switching options of series, parallel and single-coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='josh3184' post='752312' date='Feb 20 2010, 11:05 PM']Oddly enough I found that my corvette $$ had one of the fastest necks I've ever played! Each to their own of course Certainly agree with the try before you buy though, they seem to polarise opinion (I just happen to be a lover of them)[/quote] Well, that kind of is and isn't what i meant. It has a nice thin jazz profile, and i feel really comfortable on it, but with how deep it is, i wouldn't say it was "fast" like a jazz bass or something similar as it would be a little deceptive. But yeah, i love my warwick necks, they're just SOOOOOOO comfy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='budget bassist' post='752071' date='Feb 20 2010, 07:09 PM']Also warwicks don't really have "fast" necks...[/quote] You're kidding, right? You really have to be kidding. With a pick, I can shred like Yngvie on my 'vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [quote name='silddx' post='752337' date='Feb 20 2010, 11:25 PM']You're kidding, right? You really have to be kidding. With a pick, I [b]can[/b] shred like Yngvie on my 'vette.[/quote] Can? Please, for the love of god, tell me that you [b]don't[/b]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='752346' date='Feb 20 2010, 11:31 PM']Can? Please, for the love of god, tell me that you [b]don't[/b].[/quote] +1 Lovely piece of music spoilt by a ponce with long hair and a Strat...... And to the OP, cant really help you with your qunadry but it does sound like if the 'ray was too brite you should've tried it with flats. Just my opine of course.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 yngvie, what a total bellwop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='752346' date='Feb 20 2010, 11:31 PM']Can? Please, for the love of god, tell me that you [b]don't[/b]. [/quote] I think silddx is just after those boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddys nose Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 If you like a Ric sound but the neck of a Stingray have a look at a Vigier Excess they get so close to the Ric sound just ask Roger Glover and the build quality is second to none with no dead spots on the neck due to the 10/90 neck, The $$ won't get you that sound and is a more woody organic sound but still is a decent bass for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyfastfingers Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thanks for all your help guys, I guess what I'm really try to figure out is what will give me something usable in pop/indie/rock music that the P-Bass Deluxe isn't very good at. And is the popular opinion that the P-Bass is a slow neck? It feels quicker than my old Rickenbacker from memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Another vote for the Warwick Corvette $$. The original one I had was immense. But a Stingray will do the job as well. Huge tone from these and a very fast neck if you use some lighter gauge strings. I've found my Stingray neck to be much more stable than Fender necks, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Personally? Id choose the Stingray....on looks and tone. Not only that, it seems my Rays almost play themselves...so sensitive I can play very lightly. The Rick...well Ive always wanted one, but I wont get one. Why? The dreaded problems I hear about. Necks/finish/binding...etc etc. Just cannot be bothered. They LOOK and SOUND fabulous though. The Warwick? I wouldnt mind a Corvette $$ or Streamer $$...but I really need to play the necks first. My opinion, if you struggle to play a neck, it means more than likely a technique adjustment is in order, and it might help build more muscles in your hands...(thats just a guess). Im used to P necks and my hands are small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm after a pet. Considering a gerbil, a python, or a crocodile. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyfastfingers Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 [quote name='spongebob' post='752856' date='Feb 21 2010, 03:06 PM']I'm after a pet. Considering a gerbil, a python, or a crocodile. Any ideas?[/quote] I'm not sure the analogy of a Gerbil (if you're comparing to a Rick) is right, but fair point. I am obviously after advice because I don't have enough knowledge myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 [quote name='Geddys nose' post='752650' date='Feb 21 2010, 11:27 AM']If you like a Ric sound but the neck of a Stingray have a look at a Vigier Excess they get so close to the Ric sound just ask Roger Glover and the build quality is second to none with no dead spots on the neck due to the 10/90 neck, The $$ won't get you that sound and is a more woody organic sound but still is a decent bass for the money.[/quote] A +1 for Vigier. Build quality? Off the meter. You might well score a second-hand Passion or Arpege (S2 or S3) for the cost of a new 'Ray.. Then you're [i]really[/i] going to get a superb bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 [quote name='jonnyfastfingers' post='752652' date='Feb 21 2010, 11:29 AM']And is the popular opinion that the P-Bass is a slow neck? It feels quicker than my old Rickenbacker from memory.[/quote] There is no such thing as a slow neck, only slow people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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