thumperbob 2002 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 [quote name='MythSte' post='761373' date='Mar 1 2010, 11:49 PM']Or a Schroder 1212 and Little Mark 2. Tried and tested, bloody monsterous.[/quote] +1 really you dont need anymore than this - whatever you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 if you can find a local stockist its worth checking out the Roland D-bass range. i sold my Ampeg SVT rig to buy one of these & love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 If I had a £1000 to spend today, I'd check out that MKll for sale on here and add 2 Ag12 cabs ( new ) or one of the Ag DB212's You could buy new or there are a few DB versions around on here and save a few quids.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 The gear people have suggested on here had already sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='smurfitt' post='765976' date='Mar 6 2010, 12:38 PM']....The gear people have suggested on here had already sold....[/quote] Don't worry, there'll be more along soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='759659' date='Feb 28 2010, 11:33 AM']Buy used and get a 500 watt amp and a 4x10 cab. You'll be fine for whatever your band wants to do in the future.[/quote] One thing I have learned from this ad is a bigger ouput amp is not going to necessarily give volume or a clean sound if the speaker is less than 100db @spl 1watt to 1mtr. In other words better to have a 300w amp and 4x10 speaker with 104db. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='guybrush threepwood' post='761249' date='Mar 1 2010, 09:42 PM']I'd go for these whatever rig you buy [/quote] I didn't ask about earphones and already have them. Would be more helpful if you stuck to the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='JMT3781' post='761280' date='Mar 1 2010, 10:13 PM']Buy used definately my fried... And i wouldnt bother waiting for the new TNT, in my oppinion the tnt range has got worse (and heavier) with every offering... the old ones are great.. we have the newest ones in the studio i work in, not only do they sound a bit rubbish but i through my back out carrying one because of how stupidly the handle is placed....[/quote] These new ones are the lightest on the market! Anway, having looked into it further the 300w RMS at 4ohm so won't be sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='smurfitt' post='765992' date='Mar 6 2010, 12:51 PM']....One thing I have learned from this ad is a bigger ouput amp is not going to necessarily give volume or a clean sound if the speaker is less than 100db @spl 1watt to 1mtr. In other words better to have a 300w amp and 4x10 speaker with 104db....[/quote] Sorry but I don't know what this means, but a bigger amp (you don't have to run it on 11!) gives you more headroom so I guess I don't agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='766001' date='Mar 6 2010, 12:58 PM']Sorry but I don't know what this means, but a bigger amp (you don't have to run it on 11!) gives you more headroom so I guess I don't agree![/quote] If the speaker can take the output of the amp that's fine but I'm talking about pure clean sound that cuts through in a live performance with clarity as opposed to earsplitting volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh3184 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) if you make sure you've got enough speaker area pumping air around you should really need to worry about cutting through. I'd say that around 400/500W will cut through in nearly all situations with a 4x10. 2x12s should work too. Probably the only thing to avoid would be (for instance) a 1x15 by itself or a 2x10 by itself. However a 2x10 AND a 1x15 would be fine in all likelihood As has already been suggested, going by what it for sale at the moment I'd say a [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=79593"]Little Mark II[/url] and either a [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78800"]Schroeder 1212L[/url] or the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=74900"]Big One[/url] LMII+Schroeder= £765 LMII+Big One= £960 So probably the Schroeder combination as it gives you some dosh to play with if you want anything else. EDIT: Plus since the Schroeder is 8ohm you could spend the £235 on another 8ohm cab if you want to deafen people Edited March 6, 2010 by josh3184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='josh3184' post='766096' date='Mar 6 2010, 03:40 PM']if you make sure you've got enough speaker area pumping air around you should really need to worry about cutting through. I'd say that around 400/500W will cut through in nearly all situations with a 4x10. 2x12s should work too. Probably the only thing to avoid would be (for instance) a 1x15 by itself or a 2x10 by itself. However a 2x10 AND a 1x15 would be fine in all likelihood As has already been suggested, going by what it for sale at the moment I'd say a [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=79593"]Little Mark II[/url] and either a [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78800"]Schroeder 1212L[/url] or the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=74900"]Big One[/url] LMII+Schroeder= £765 LMII+Big One= £960 So probably the Schroeder combination as it gives you some dosh to play with if you want anything else. EDIT: Plus since the Schroeder is 8ohm you could spend the £235 on another 8ohm cab if you want to deafen people[/quote] What about these: Markbass SA450: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78985"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78985[/url] Sadowsky SA410 4 ohms, very efficient (laoud!) cab : [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78044"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78044[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) [quote name='josh3184' post='766096' date='Mar 6 2010, 02:40 PM']if you make sure you've got enough speaker area pumping air around you should really need to worry about cutting through. I'd say that around 400/500W will cut through in nearly all situations with a 4x10. 2x12s should work too. Probably the only thing to avoid would be (for instance) a 1x15 by itself or a 2x10 by itself. However a 2x10 AND a 1x15 would be fine in all likelihood As has already been suggested, going by what it for sale at the moment I'd say a [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=79593"]Little Mark II[/url] and either a [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=78800"]Schroeder 1212L[/url] or the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=74900"]Big One[/url] LMII+Schroeder= £765 LMII+Big One= £960 So probably the Schroeder combination as it gives you some dosh to play with if you want anything else. EDIT: Plus since the Schroeder is 8ohm you could spend the £235 on another 8ohm cab if you want to deafen people[/quote] Well if you read my post you will see I don't want to be humping about two cabs., just one. The barefaced big one says it 6ohms which surely is not compatible with an 8ohm amp? If you think a 400w with a 4x10 cab is ok then do you think this will do the job: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110501711772&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url] Edited March 6, 2010 by smurfitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfitt Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Or this: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260562953665&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I tried to find in-depth specs on the Line 6 HD 400, particularly what would give you the full 400 watts from it. All I can find from anywhere is that it's 400W. From that I can only surmise that it would be 400W @ 4Ohms. The cab in the ad is an 8Ohm cab and as such your output power would be considerably reduced. You need a 4Ohm cab. The second ad would work but it would depend on what you're up against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh3184 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Little Mark has a minimum impedance of 4ohm if I recall correctly which will mean that it can run 4ohm and about (6ohm, 8ohm, 16ohm, etc), or at least that's my understanding if anyone wants to correct me? As for the ebay links, I'd (personally) choose the Hartke over the Line6 but that's just me. No substitute for trying these amps out of course! If there's any way you can take your bass to a music shop and have a twiddle through their amps it might be a good idea, if only to find out which manufacturer suits your tone the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Balsamic Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 The Big One would work fine with a LMII @ 6 ohms. That said, if you want to go really loud, you'd probably want to put more power into a Big One than the LMII can provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 [quote name='Uncle Balsamic' post='766263' date='Mar 6 2010, 05:34 PM']The Big One would work fine with a LMII @ 6 ohms. That said, if you want to go really loud, you'd probably want to put more power into a Big One than the LMII can provide.[/quote] Or do what I've done and order a vintage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Balsamic Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Or that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybrush threepwood Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 [quote name='smurfitt' post='765997' date='Mar 6 2010, 12:54 PM']I didn't ask about earphones and already have them. Would be more helpful if you stuck to the topic. [/quote] Well, I apologise for the deviation, but I was purely trying to reiterate the importance of wearing earplugs. A lot of people seem to forget that there's no point having a lush sounding, loud rig if you're deaf. But not you. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 [quote name='Tinman' post='766268' date='Mar 6 2010, 05:40 PM']Or do what I've done and order a vintage [/quote] Oh have you! You'll LOVE it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 [quote name='MythSte' post='766941' date='Mar 7 2010, 03:02 PM']Oh have you! You'll LOVE it [/quote] Yup, yup, yup :brow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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