How was your gig last night?

[Downunderwonder]

4 hours ago, Obrienp said:

using one earbud

Don't. Your brain doesn't actually hear properly in stereo so you need twice as much volume in the in ear to make it sound the same as it would with both at half.

[peteb]

52 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said:

Don't. Your brain doesn't actually hear properly in stereo so you need twice as much volume in the in ear to make it sound the same as it would with both at half.

 

I don't know if this is true, but I know several (very good and very experienced) singers who will use one IEM when gigging. I don't use IEMs, but I often use a moulded ear protector in one ear on a loud stage, which seems to work well enough. 

 

Edited September 9, 2023 by peteb

[Jo.gwillim]

4 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

Which pub? Back in the 80s that title would have fitted the Angel's back bar...

We're in Rummers, back in the 80s i think it was called Baccus. The angel is still going, but i think we may be a bit tame for there. Gig going great, i breath a sign of relief when the sounds right and i get on with playing. The final hour coming up after I've had a pee.

[Downunderwonder]

9 hours ago, peteb said:

 

I don't know if this is true, but I know several (very good and very experienced) singers who will use one IEM when gigging. I don't use IEMs, but I often use a moulded ear protector in one ear on a loud stage, which seems to work well enough. 

 

Experienced people who have never had the well informed advice not to do 1 IEM.

 

One plug is not so bad but really you shouldn't be doing that either if it's loud. 

[Graham]

Pretty decent, 50th birthday party in a social club, so went exactly as you'd expect it to.

 

Had a slight issue with my slimmed down pedal board, I think a connection came loose at one point so I went silent. No drama, just by-passed the pedal board and went straight into the amp until there was a moment to re-jig.

 

However what it did highlight is what an integral part of my sound the TC Spectracomp is. Without it, the sound was thinner and lacked some umph, turning on my EBS amp's built in compressor was no comparison either. Just set to 12:00 on the default tone-print brought out some very pleasing frequencies and filled out the sound.

 

It's remarkable how good the Spectracomp is, particularly for a one-knob pedal at it's price point

[jimmyb625]

An afternoon slot at the Wigan Diggers' Festival for Fine Lines. https://wigandiggersfestival.org/

It was rather warm, much like the rest of the UK, which isn't my favourite thing to play in.

We played without a drummer, as the regular one was on holiday and the dep we had arranged needed to drop out. As we're an originals band, it's a bit harder to make last minute substitutions. However we've played with this line up before, so it's not something we went into blind.

Stage monitoring was a bit challenging to start off with  For the first song, the only things audible were the piano/organ and one of the singers. I had to watch the guitarist's strumming pattern (not an euphemism) in order to follow the beat. Still, it improved eventually and we managed to survive until the end.

Under normal circumstances, I would have been wearing a more "on-brand" stage shirt, however the setup time was limited, so we pretty much ran straight through setup, line check and performance. 

 

[Woodinblack]

Private festival yesterday - very well attended, I think it is private just so that they can save on the public insurance while still inviting everyone!

There were two 'stages', ie flatbed trailers with haybales in front of them, like this:

 

 

and it went on from about 3:30 until we stopped at ¼ to 12, but people were staying there in big premade tents and a couple of motorhomes / vans. There were two bands before us, a guy on a piano doing really impressive covers of large band songs, and a group of people doing general covers in a sort of hilbilly style. We were supposed to start at 8:30, but even though we were setup and ready by 7:30, the middle band just carried on until 8:25 which meant we had practically no time to get sound setup, other than line checks.

 

Still when we went on it was good, although I was playing the bongo, and I couldn;t see the fretmarkers at all, so made some silly mistakes, and also while the sound was good at the front, the bass where i was was deafening, probably because of standing on the same bit of metal as all the cabs (but the guitarist couldn't hear the bass at all). 

Switched to the acrylic bass, as at least I could then see, sound not as good but overall the image was better.

Went down a storm with people dancing all night, and really wanting us to not stop, and paid pretty well too.

 

[dmccombe7]

57 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

Private festival yesterday - very well attended, I think it is private just so that they can save on the public insurance while still inviting everyone!

There were two 'stages', ie flatbed trailers with haybales in front of them, like this:

 

 

and it went on from about 3:30 until we stopped at ¼ to 12, but people were staying there in big premade tents and a couple of motorhomes / vans. There were two bands before us, a guy on a piano doing really impressive covers of large band songs, and a group of people doing general covers in a sort of hilbilly style. We were supposed to start at 8:30, but even though we were setup and ready by 7:30, the middle band just carried on until 8:25 which meant we had practically no time to get sound setup, other than line checks.

 

Still when we went on it was good, although I was playing the bongo, and I couldn;t see the fretmarkers at all, so made some silly mistakes, and also while the sound was good at the front, the bass where i was was deafening, probably because of standing on the same bit of metal as all the cabs (but the guitarist couldn't hear the bass at all). 

Switched to the acrylic bass, as at least I could then see, sound not as good but overall the image was better.

Went down a storm with people dancing all night, and really wanting us to not stop, and paid pretty well too.

 

Looks like a great wee night there. 

Dave

[Obrienp]

16 hours ago, Downunderwonder said:

Don't. Your brain doesn't actually hear properly in stereo so you need twice as much volume in the in ear to make it sound the same as it would with both at half.

I didn’t know that but it explains quite a lot! As I said, it was OKish (no more). I set the volume with both earbuds in, then removed one. I have had a problem with ringing ears after using IEMs with another band and that was when using both earbuds, so I am quite careful about the volume I am giving them. I found the single earbud helped fill in the mids and highs a bit. The lows I was getting anyway. Obviously much better if everything goes into the PA and you can use both earbuds at a sensible volume.

 

 I have since cured the cramped space inaudibility problem by getting a combo with a slanted speaker baffle (Peavey Max 150). It’s loud enough for the gigs this band does and has quite a good DI out as well.

[BigRedX]

Hurtsfall played on Friday night at The Angel in Nottingham with Inward Strange and Cold In Berlin.

 

Another really good one for us, not quite as bonkers as our last gig in Leeds, and we didn't play quite as well (we were probably the only people who noticed that) but there were plenty of people down the front dancing and cheering between songs. Only down side was that the foldback mix for our set was entirely different to the one we had sorted out during the soundcheck despite the fact that nothing had need to be unplugged in between and the venue has a programmable digital desk. It wasn't a big deal, but in this day and age the only reason I can think for this happening is user error on the part of the PA engineer. However lots of people came up afterwards and told us how much they had enjoyed the set, and we sold a decent amount of merch. I was expecting to be able to post some photos but nothing has shown up on social media yet.

 

Next gig is on 16th September in Coalville at the Victoria Bikers Pub as part of the Gothic Gathering festival. We're on just before 6.00 in the evening.

[Woodinblack]

4 hours ago, dmccombe7 said:

Looks like a great wee night there. 

Dave

 

It was, thanks, although the surprise I wasn't expecting is that lit up basses actually attract flying biting insects outside!

 

[dmccombe7]

26 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

 

It was, thanks, although the surprise I wasn't expecting is that lit up basses actually attract flying biting insects outside!

 

Good job you weren't playing in Scotland as the Midges would have eaten you alive. Big teeth, tackety boots and all. 

Dave

[Jackroadkill]

7 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said:

Good job you weren't playing in Scotland as the Midges would have eaten you alive. Big teeth, tackety boots and all. 

 

Aye, they're like an airborne buzzsaw, aren't they?!

[martthebass]

A couple of days have passed since our gig on Friday. We played well and had a fair crowd who were on their feet from early in the first spot. Unfortunately our new updated PA decided to fight us....

First a crossover died despite checking everything out early in the week. Second, smoke emanated from one of the new subs...😞

And lastly the Dynacord shut down a few channels to save itself.

Despite this we soldiered on and pretty much got away with it.  

Big gig on Saturday to come and solutions to be developed to deal with it...

Edited September 11, 2023 by martthebass

[Stub Mandrel]

On 09/09/2023 at 22:55, Jo.gwillim said:

We're in Rummers, back in the 80s i think it was called Baccus. The angel is still going, but i think we may be a bit tame for there. Gig going great, i breath a sign of relief when the sounds right and i get on with playing. The final hour coming up after I've had a pee.

 

Ah yes, in my day Bacchus Wine Bar was always a bit posh (=expensive) so I didn’t go often.

 

Hope it was a good night!

[Downunderwonder]

10 minutes ago, martthebass said:

A couple of days have passed since our gig on Friday. We played well and had a fair crowd who were on their feet from early in the first spot. Unfortunately our new updated PA decided to fight us....

First a crossover died despite checking everything out early in the week. Second, smoke emanated from one of the new subs...😞

And lastly the Dynacord shut down a few channels to save itself.

Despite this we soldiered on and pretty much got away with it.  

Big gig on Saturday to come and solutions to be developed to deal with it...

Bad power???

[dmccombe7]

18 minutes ago, martthebass said:

A couple of days have passed since our gig on Friday. We played well and had a fair crowd who were on their feet from early in the first spot. Unfortunately our new updated PA decided to fight us....

First a crossover died despite checking everything out early in the week. Second, smoke emanated from one of the new subs...😞

And lastly the Dynacord shut down a few channels to save itself.

Despite this we soldiered on and pretty much got away with it.  

Big gig on Saturday to come and solutions to be developed to deal with it...

How did things go on Sat. ?

Dave

[Jo.gwillim]

On 04/09/2023 at 14:46, martthebass said:

Totally agree. The Sadowsky Metro Express I bought used has the JE2. I just set it flattish and leave it….

On gigs I mainly use mustangs….nowt to fiddle with 😂

 

On 09/09/2023 at 18:00, Stub Mandrel said:

 

Which pub? Back in the 80s that title would have fitted the Angel's back bar...

 

19 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

Ah yes, in my day Bacchus Wine Bar was always a bit posh (=expensive) so I didn’t go often.

 

Hope it was a good night!

Yes i remember now, it was posh. Rummers has a lot of undercover outdoor seating, which of course on a hot sweaty night is the place to be so the audience was mainly outside, i hope enjoying the ambience we were providing inside. But as the night went on people drifted in and by midnight we had a bar full of hot sweaty bodies dancing and calling for "one more song". For me doubling up on sound it was great i have bought a backup xr18 mixer as my original one has been struggling on but getting sicker and sicker. The new one made all the difference, i wasn't struggling to find channels that still worked. Our main singer has taken to a wired iem and we mike up the guitar amp so the stage sound is a lot quieter and so less prone to feedback which was always an issue with 4 mics up front. So all in all we came away happy!

[martthebass]

1 hour ago, dmccombe7 said:

How did things go on Sat. ?

Dave

Fortunately we didn’t have one on Saturday Dave but we need to get sorted for this coming Saturday as we’ve got a big room to fill.

[martthebass]

1 hour ago, Downunderwonder said:

Bad power???

Not entirely sure. The crossover on one side died early on and it was a cascade of chaos after that. The crossovers and subs are new and on 60day return so we’ll see what the vendor has to say.

[ricksterphil]

Very nearly played to three men and a dog on Saturday, saved by the fact that our guitarist Dave brought his family and friends along.

A good night was had by all and we played well with no techie dramas.  Pic of the band post gig with said family+friends

Not a gig we're keen to do again..beer was ok, toilets were antideluvian and there was a crowd of crack heads on the street outside. Also the pay was sh1te (but that's down to us I guess)

 

 

[dmccombe7]

21 minutes ago, martthebass said:

Not entirely sure. The crossover on one side died early on and it was a cascade of chaos after that. The crossovers and subs are new and on 60day return so we’ll see what the vendor has to say.

What manufacturer are they ?

[cheddatom]

We played Wigan Diggers festival on Saturday. Shame I missed you @jimmyb625 I had no idea another basschatter was on! I don't tend to read up on gigs, just get picked up in the van, go and play. That can sometimes have some unforeseen consequences, such as not realising I won't get to bed until 4AM, or not realising we're staying over at the other end of the country when I've booked a recording session for the next morning. 

 

Anyway, Wigan Diggers is a great festival. We've done it quite a few times in the past and it's always such a lovely atmosphere. The extremely warm weather can only have helped. The crowd looked huge to me, and everyone looked to be enjoying themselves. The only downer was some idiot causing trouble down at the front half way through. A giant fan of ours managed to gently escort him off but it always puts a damper on the atmosphere. The other negative was that I'd forgotten my hi-hat stand. There was a house kit, but set as high as I could get it, it was still 10 inches lower than I'd have liked. My fault, and pretty amusing

 

 

Finally, a decent shot of my ridiculous kit made of 26" x 9" marching bass drum, and a couple of almost matching toms. The photo is by a lady called Kate who goes by "Late Developer" on facebook and she's very talented. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091871011827

 

 

Sunday night at Feral Fest in Herefordshire. It was a pleasure to see @Leonard Smalls band Choked. When I saw them at Rebellion Festival the sound wasn't great but last night in this barn was brilliant. Two very distinctive bass sounds and styles, tight drummer, female Zach De-La Rocha at the front, and an absolute wah-wizard on lead guitar. There wasn't a massive crowd but everyone seemed to be in to it. The highlight was our man's glitter trousers and I wish I'd have taken a photo but I guess we've all see them in this thread by now

 

Our set was just after and there were even fewer in the barn for us at first. It seemed to turn around after a couple of songs, no idea why, but people started to appear from somewhere and in the end it was a great gig. No photos as I forgot

 

Now I'm trying to work my day job on 3 hours sleep

 

[Leonard Smalls]

Last night was Going Feral For Mental Health at Gwatkin Cider in darkest Herefordshire. We played there last year as well, but have moved up the bill a bit, we were at 2010, just before @cheddatom's Headsticks, who as usual were excellent (though I had to sneak off early...).

As Tom said, it's a slightly odd crowd - more people seem to sit outside on the benches, but we even had a dancing dog - though it's possible he was trying to get my sporran (oh yes...) and we only made a couple of minor mistakes (drummer keeps insisting on putting a 4 beat fill in where it should be 2) but nobody noticed enough to start throwing tomatoes. Otherwise, all fine - sound is great even on stage! I even had a chap afterwards very interested in my bass and how it made all those weird squealy noises...

 

1 hour ago, cheddatom said:

The highlight was our man's glitter trousers and I wish I'd have taken a photo

 

My Mrs took a photo when I got home, after driving through a serious lightshow followed by torrential rain...

 

[cheddatom]

9 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said:

Last night was Going Feral For Mental Health at Gwatkin Cider in darkest Herefordshire. We played there last year as well, but have moved up the bill a bit, we were at 2010, just before @cheddatom's Headsticks, who as usual were excellent (though I had to sneak off early...).

As Tom said, it's a slightly odd crowd - more people seem to sit outside on the benches, but we even had a dancing dog - though it's possible he was trying to get my sporran (oh yes...) and we only made a couple of minor mistakes (drummer keeps insisting on putting a 4 beat fill in where it should be 2) but nobody noticed enough to start throwing tomatoes. Otherwise, all fine - sound is great even on stage! I even had a chap afterwards very interested in my bass and how it made all those weird squealy noises...

 

 

My Mrs took a photo when I got home, after driving through a serious lightshow followed by torrential rain...

 

 

Honestly I think the rest of the band need to get on board with the wild trousers, it could be your thing