PA Equipment

[thomas]

I dont think you cant get a PA for 500 people for £700. If your only doing vocals, id get the nicest used 2x12 tops you can and a used europower amp. Any more complexity in the system and prices increase to much.

[Spike Vincent]

If you're looking at 500 seat venues,you'll be looking at around a 5k rig.Stick a 0 on the end of your £700....

[keeponehandloose]

A good rule of thumb passed ont ome ,by somebody in the know.
Indoors aprox 5watts of power per person (500 people=2500W)
Outdoors approx 15watts per person (500 people=7500W)

[cameltoe]

[quote name='throwoff' post='771340' date='Mar 11 2010, 11:23 AM']Ok here is what I have however I'm going to make a statement first. This is my personal recommendation, I am familiar with every item on this list personally and feel the quality of the overall rig is great especially in your price range. I have used thomann simply because everyone knows them and they have a good 30 day money back deal so if you ordered this exact list and tried it you can return it.

Even if you dont use this exact list be aware everything on it I would call 'essential' ie even if you order something totally different I believe you would need something to fill each space.

[u]First and foremost desk and speakers[/u]!

[b]Peavey Pro 15 messenger speakers and a TMix powered desk.[/b]
This is bundled together with the speakon cables and gives you 375W per side into 15" full range speakers. For this budget its nigh on impossible to get something with subs im afraid without a massive loss of overall quality to the components and to be brutally honest you dont need them for a straight vocal PA. I use 15" tops and always mic the kick and often run a bass DI in small venues and I dont bother taking my subs 15's can handle it!
The desk does have 2 unpowered outs as well so the option is there to add Powered subs or passive subs with a power amp later.
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_pro_15_messenger_serie_bundle.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_pro_15_mes...erie_bundle.htm[/url] PRICE £525.33
[b]Speaker stands[/b]
2 with a bag (I still use a set of these I had over 2 years now! quality for the money)
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_bs2211b_boxenstaenderset.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_bs2211b...staenderset.htm[/url] PRICE £37.20

[u]Mics! [/u]

[b]Drum Mics Superlux DRK A3 pack[/b]
I still use these for my drum mics (a bigger pack admitedly but the same range) 3 mics; one kick 2 snare/tom
Ideal for smaller gigs as a kick can be essential. snare probs wont use too much if your drummer has a nice one but always have the option
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/superlux_drk_a3.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/superlux_drk_a3.htm[/url] PRICE £24.50

[b]T-Bone MB75[/b]
As the name suggest this is a rather naughty SM57 copy. Rumour has it they are made using old shure machinery in China and having side by sided my one of these with a 57' I'm not sure thats just a rumour. Great for guitar cabs, random instruments you might need. I have used this on snare, guitar cabs, tambourine, brass and even as a vocal mic its just a great all rounder.
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mb75.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mb75.htm[/url] PRICE £28.13
[b]
BeyerDynamic Opus 29 (bundle)[/b]
I chose the bundle version simply because you get a 6m XLR for about a quid! and an extra cable is always helpful. For my money this is the best budget mic on the market today. I have 3 of these and an SM58 which was my original mic set for vocal. The 58 invariable got left in the box, I just think these sound nicer
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_opus_29_s_bundle.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_opus_29_s_bundle.htm[/url] PRICE £34.48

[u]Cables +Stands![/u]
Now the boring bits that hold it all together!

[b]10x SSNAKE SM10[/b]
Basic 10m XLR cable. Does the job and buying 10 means you should have spares (essential as the first time you gig without at least 2 spares 2 cables will break!) They come in a bunch of colours if you fancy it (I use red ones for kick and snare just to keep them in my eye) But traditional black works!
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_sk233-10.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_sk233-10.htm[/url] PRICE £57.20 (for 10)
[b]
Millenium MS 2002 low stand[/b]
Short stand for kick mic (sometimes guitar cab but more often than not kick!)
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2002.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2002.htm[/url] PRICE £12.61

[b]4x Millenium MS 2005 regular stand[/b]
You said you have a couple already so I put down 4, gives you 6 total which is plenty for most occasions. Tough and reliable stands
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2005_mic_stand.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2005_mic_stand.htm[/url] PRICE £33.76 (for 4)
[b]
Mic clips x4 [/b]
Old fashioned rubber bits. These are strong gripping and have no moving parts like some of the budget spring ones ie they wont snap!
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mikrohalterung.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mikrohalterung.htm[/url] PRICE £10.16 (for 4)

TOTAL! £763.37

OK I went over budget! But this as close to it as I can get!

Of course as people have said you can always go second hand and a lot of people do, I have found some bargins on the bay and elsewhere but you dont usually have a returns policy! Some stuff I bought and wish to God I could take it back even though it was very cheap just because I'll never use it.
Mic's especially and speakers are liable to be 'ragged' and with the amount of counterfeits on eBay I would be wary.


Anyway thats my suggestion. I found it quite enjoyable If anyone else wants me to do something similar just drop me a PM[/quote]


Monitors?



Dude in all honesty, what people here have been touching on is correct. 500+ people is a crazy amount, and I can't see how a 750w desk running only two speakers is gonna be anywhere near enough.

What this guy has recommended is probably as good 'bang for buck' as you will find, but it's still a small venue PA. It's similar to what my band uses, and that's just for pubs/small clubs.