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Got me an Ibanez Rick copy bloke reckoned it was probably made around 76, neck through version a few dings but I'm a happy man!

Very pleased too late at night to play it through an amp though :)


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[quote name='Bassassin' post='771169' date='Mar 11 2010, 01:30 AM']Very nice! How do you know it's an Ibanez, though?

Jon.[/quote]

To be honest the guy who was selling it was a friend of a friend and the bass was recommended to me by a guitar tech guy, who is something of a rick fanatic, so i took his word for it.

I know you are the man around here when it comes to these things, what should I look for, advice much appreciated!

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[quote name='Stacker' post='773408' date='Mar 13 2010, 09:31 AM']Interesting tug-bar holes on the 'guard. I'd bet it is one of the later Ibanez copies, judgin by those elephant-ears keys and size/diameter of the tuning capstans themselves. One of the better copies and with full-width inlays, too![/quote]

fancy a swap for the one you have for sale :)

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[quote name='Stacker' post='773408' date='Mar 13 2010, 09:31 AM']Interesting tug-bar holes on the 'guard. I'd bet it is one of the later Ibanez copies, judgin by those elephant-ears keys and size/diameter of the tuning capstans themselves. One of the better copies and with full-width inlays, too![/quote]
I think this is a strange sort of transitional one - Ibby 4001 copies all had full-size tuners from the earliest ones in about 1971 and the date explains the full width inlays & checked binding. However for the first 4 years or so they had big chrome Gibson Mudbucker style pickups, which were actually single coils in big cases:

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Around 75/76, the model was updated with more accurate hardware and smaller pearloid inlays, however one or two "transitional" examples turn up with features from both "eras" and I think that's what Stevie's is - I've only ever seen FWIs with mudbuckers before.

All Ibby 4001s seem to have checked binding regardless of when they were made, and the very earliest have a very heavy cast tailpiece which can't tail-lift, a bit like the old Rick gap-tooth ones. I'm of the opinion the Ibanez 4001 copy was the first (along with early Greco, which was the same bass with a different badge) which is why it has a lot of early 70s features, and perhaps why the factory used and EB3 type pickup set - it was what they had lying around!

Stevie - is there a serial number? It'll be stamped on the back of the head if there is.

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='774028' date='Mar 14 2010, 12:47 AM']I think this is a strange sort of transitional one - Ibby 4001 copies all had full-size tuners from the earliest ones in about 1971 and the date explains the full width inlays & checked binding. However for the first 4 years or so they had big chrome Gibson Mudbucker style pickups, which were actually single coils in big cases:

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Around 75/76, the model was updated with more accurate hardware and smaller pearloid inlays, however one or two "transitional" examples turn up with features from both "eras" and I think that's what Stevie's is - I've only ever seen FWIs with mudbuckers before.

All Ibby 4001s seem to have checked binding regardless of when they were made, and the very earliest have a very heavy cast tailpiece which can't tail-lift, a bit like the old Rick gap-tooth ones. I'm of the opinion the Ibanez 4001 copy was the first (along with early Greco, which was the same bass with a different badge) which is why it has a lot of early 70s features, and perhaps why the factory used and EB3 type pickup set - it was what they had lying around!

Stevie - is there a serial number? It'll be stamped on the back of the head if there is.

J.[/quote]

I had a lovely Fireglo one with the 'Mudbucker'. That pickup was as weak as sin and I eventually put a Bill Lawrence twin rails humbucker in there which [i]just [/i]covered the hole left by the mudbucker. I don't recall mine having the cheq binding but all that's lost in the mists of time. I had often wondered about that early pup config and your presumtion that they were leftovers from EB3 copies is entirely plausible!

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='774028' date='Mar 14 2010, 12:47 AM']Stevie - is there a serial number? It'll be stamped on the back of the head if there is.

J.[/quote]

Hi John no there isn't a serial I thought there might be as I imagine it's a later copy but no.

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[quote name='Soloshchenko' post='774151' date='Mar 14 2010, 10:34 AM']Nice looking copy. I actually have serious GAS for something similiar. I must say, looking at it, it seemed surprising it was an Ibanez. Are you sure itisn't a Greco?[/quote]

I'm no expert just really going by what the seller said and getting advice from BCers who are far more knowledgeable than me.

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[quote name='Soloshchenko' post='774151' date='Mar 14 2010, 10:34 AM']Nice looking copy. I actually have serious GAS for something similiar. I must say, looking at it, it seemed surprising it was an Ibanez. Are you sure itisn't a Greco?[/quote]
Theoretically it could be a Greco, as the same bass was sold under that brand. However Greco was technically a Japan-only brand & never officially imported to the UK, so it's quite unlikely.

J.

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