Tech21NYC Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The VT Bass has a buffered output and was designed to be connected directly to a mixer/recording interface. Its buffered output will not be degraded even when using long cable runs. If you need to use an XLR connection any decent DI box can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I use a passive Radial Stage Bug SB-2. It sounds natural and not hugely expensive (£85) but mainly like the fact there's really nothing that can go wrong. I turn up on stage and I can guarantee it's the one thing that's not going break and one less thing that needs to find a mains socket.... so hassle free. Our guitarist insists on using active di's and on the last two gigs we ended up tracing issues with his sound down to them and then using my spare stagebug (which I carry just for him!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfrasho Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I use that Millennium DI box - 11 quid. It adds nothing to the sound and I've had zero issues with it. Not sure the benefits of spending big bucks unless you want one with a 'sound'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I think after 13 years the op is probably sorted. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Jack said: I think after 13 years the op is probably sorted. Dunno. I've been thinking about this for 13 years and I'm still in two minds ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Jack said: I think after 13 years the op is probably sorted. I wouldn't be so sure.I have forgotten more than I'll ever know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Clarky said: I wouldn't be so sure.I have forgotten more than I'll ever know Do you still have the Radial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 If this thread needs closure, after 13 years my rig now includes two DI-enabled preamps: a Tech21 Bass Fly Rig V2; and an EBS Valvedrive DI. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 20/03/2010 at 17:51, JackLondon said: My experience of using passive DI comes from the studio when I was recording last year, the bloke had an active box with which we recorded one track and when I listened back it wasn't a good sound, we plugged a passive box and it made it sound more natural to me, with active box there's was that little amount of boost which was even visible on the recording software, it couldn't have been playing dynamics as it was using an 8 second loop that was recorded on my effect! I'm sure Max that with proper design a quality components you use your boxes are clean, many manufacturers however tend to cut corners here and there which means that what it says on the tin isn't what it actually does! Cheers Jack What DI was the problematic active one ? was it set to flat / bypass ? A flat response clean active DI is one of the easiest circuits to implement tbh so seems something wrong there. Was it feeding a balanced mic or line input ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Have to say that this topic seems to have become a tad overcomplicated. The OP has the "sound" required so just needs to translate it to a "balanced" (there are several 'flavours' of this) and possible attenuated low impedance output to feed a mixing desk or interface. The most accurate and likely least expensive way to do this is with an active DI solution. Many available. It's basically just a flat response circuit with some form of balanced output. Passive transformer solutions are also suitable but might get expensive if going for highest fidelity. But the inexpensive solutions will likely be fine if they have enough low frequency response. They will 'colour' the sound further but you may like that or not. They may also offer better CMRR but that is unlikely to be an issue unless you are running long signals in high noise environments eg OB truck etc. You could likely implement an effective impedance balanced output inside a (larger eg Neutrik) jack socket body by wiring in a resistor and optionally a capacitor). But if not into DIY then a commercial solution is a good option. For bass guitar top end isn't a thing. You don't really need to go to the expense of a Sowter / Jensen / Lundahl transformer based solution. Also look at the (UK based) Orchid Electronics DI options. I don't have personal experience but hear from reliable sources that they are very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Okay. I missed the date of the original post. Doh 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 07/04/2023 at 13:38, Tech21NYC said: The VT Bass has a buffered output and was designed to be connected directly to a mixer/recording interface. Its buffered output will not be degraded even when using long cable runs. If you need to use an XLR connection any decent DI box can be used. Old thread - but since you've chipped in now - what is the output stage detail. Buffered - so presumably low impedance - but is it impedance balanced. This is so simple to implement that it should be standard in a high quality product. It offers real advantages wrt CMRR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Yes, buffered means low impedance. It is not a balanced TRS connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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