Pete Academy Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Monz' post='789487' date='Mar 29 2010, 03:20 PM']I've got what I consider to amongst the best amp/cab combinations available but a couple of weeks ago I played through a Peavey "V" head and 4x10 cab (also Peavey) and was really impressed by the tone and power even though it was only rated at 250W If I was in the market for another amp/backup amp I would be looking for one of these Hope this helps[/quote] I've always liked Peavey. Reliable and does what it says on the tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='bassbloke' post='789480' date='Mar 29 2010, 03:14 PM']That's what bandmates and besotted fans are for.[/quote] Ah but I'm not one of these sissy women see, who get blokes to do all their work... I like to get my hands dirty and pull my weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Pete Academy' post='789499' date='Mar 29 2010, 03:33 PM']I've always liked Peavey. Reliable and does what it says on the tin.[/quote] What... it peaves? I'll get me coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbloke Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Sarah5string' date='Mar 29 2010, 03:38 PM' post='789506'] Ah but I'm not one of these sissy women see, who get blokes to do all their work... I like to get my hands dirty and pull my weight. [/quote That's OK. You carry snare drum, cymbal bag or guitars and they get to give themselves a hernia with your cab. If anyone says it's unfair, just tell them it's making up for the agony of childbirth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='bassbloke' post='789511' date='Mar 29 2010, 03:40 PM']That's OK. You carry snare drum, cymbal bag or guitars and they get to give themselves a hernia with your cab. If anyone says it's unfair, just tell them it's making up for the agony of childbirth.[/quote] Ah true but as with all men.. they'll turn around and say they've had number 2's more painful than childbirth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Splayer Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 behringer gear is crap ashdown...dont know about the ABM range but the MAG stuff is crap IMO also.....seperate head and a cab is better...also IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ok people.... next lot of opinions please... decided to get a new head first and then look at cabs after... otherwise there's too much choice Looking at this and have heard good things about it... opinions? [url="http://www.ashdownmusic.com/bass/detail.asp?ID=112"]http://www.ashdownmusic.com/bass/detail.asp?ID=112[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Sarah5string' post='789446' date='Mar 29 2010, 02:46 PM']How is chrome not doom [/quote] I think its a Bristol thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Hi Sarah, The MAG Evo-II head is a fine piece of equipment. I had one a couple of years ago as a backup & also ran one of the 300w combos for a while as well. They work brilliantly with two cabs. More power than you'll need, really. Your Dean Pro is active, isn't it? Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='789715' date='Mar 29 2010, 06:21 PM']Hi Sarah, The MAG Evo-II head is a fine piece of equipment. I had one a couple of years ago as a backup & also ran one of the 300w combos for a while as well. They work brilliantly with two cabs. More power than you'll need, really. Your Dean Pro is active, isn't it? Rich.[/quote] Tis indeedy. Well... active preamp but not pickups I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Sarah5string' post='789726' date='Mar 29 2010, 06:28 PM']Tis indeedy. Well... active preamp but not pickups I believe.[/quote] You'll find that you need the two cabs to get the full 300w, though. With one you're only pulling only around 150w, but thankfully the Ashdown cabs are quite cheap. You can usually pick either a 1x15 or 2x10 deep for around £150 a go. Best of luck with it and happy shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daquifsta Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Sarah5string' post='789694' date='Mar 29 2010, 06:03 PM']Ok people.... next lot of opinions please... decided to get a new head first and then look at cabs after... otherwise there's too much choice Looking at this and have heard good things about it... opinions? [url="http://www.ashdownmusic.com/bass/detail.asp?ID=112"]http://www.ashdownmusic.com/bass/detail.asp?ID=112[/url][/quote] Do it, get that one :-) The longer you don't decide, the harder it will be to decide - does that make any sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='789744' date='Mar 29 2010, 06:43 PM']You'll find that you need the two cabs to get the full 300w, though. With one you're only pulling only around 150w, but thankfully the Ashdown cabs are quite cheap. You can usually pick either a 1x15 or 2x10 deep for around £150 a go. Best of luck with it and happy shopping [/quote] Would something like a hartke 4x10 be a better investment then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Daquifsta' post='789751' date='Mar 29 2010, 06:49 PM']Do it, get that one :-) The longer you don't decide, the harder it will be to decide - does that make any sense?[/quote] lol especially when I'm indecisive at the best of times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Sarah5string' post='789819' date='Mar 29 2010, 07:48 PM']Would something like a hartke 4x10 be a better investment then?[/quote] If the Hartke cabinet is a 4ohm cabinet, yes. If it's 8ohms, nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='789825' date='Mar 29 2010, 07:52 PM']If the Hartke cabinet is a 4ohm cabinet, yes. If it's 8ohms, nope. [/quote] Just check the weight first 4x10s can be very heavy but if you can manage it its probably the best single cabinet solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='789825' date='Mar 29 2010, 07:52 PM']If the Hartke cabinet is a 4ohm cabinet, yes. If it's 8ohms, nope. [/quote] I thought 8 ohms was better? Can you explain to me in very simplistic terms why 4ohms is better? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Basically, the amp only produces it's full output by splitting it through the two 8ohms cabs, therefore dividing down to 4ohms. If you use one cabinet, you'll only be getting half of the available power. I'm not sure if a 4ohm cabinet would be a solution, as you'd still be only using one of the amplifier outputs. Perhaps someone else more technically minded with speakers will clarify this one for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Sarah5string' post='789862' date='Mar 29 2010, 08:23 PM']I thought 8 ohms was better? Can you explain to me in very simplistic terms why 4ohms is better? lol [/quote] Most heads run at a minimum 4 ohm load, so a 4 ohm cab means you'll get the full wattage from the head with one cab. This can be a good and bad thing depending on your needs. If the cab isn't very efficient, the single cab route at 4 ohms would be a bad choice. 2 cabs at 8 ohms each, is a much more versatile arrangement. In answer to your original question have a gander at maybe a GK Backline half stack setup? There is a range on [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?xsid=cc275fbea745402502c159d9998b6cc2&sw=bass+half+stack&x=0&y=0"]Thomann[/url]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Here's my 2p's worth... I used to have a Behringer 32 channel mixer in my studio and it was great, loads of features, never let me down, wish I had kept it. I now own a Behringer powered PA mixer, which works and sounds ok, but not really as loud as the quoted 1200w. I have used a Behringer amp through a Marshall cab in a rehearsal room recently and again, sounded ok (not brilliant though) but not as loud as the quoted 450w. I have used 3 Peavey combo's in rehearsal rooms, and they have all sounded utter sh*te! And the Ampeg head I tried once was also sh*te! I wouldn't buy anything from either of those two. I own an Ashdown MAG EVOII 300w head, and I've yet to use it at a gig, but at fairly loud levels at home it sounded good through a variety of cabs. It cost £230 brand new from PMT Birmingham. Your budget would get you one of these and a decent s/h cab. Good luck with the search though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) So what you're saying is... if I had a 4ohm amp, and a 4ohm cab, then I'd get the full power.. but if I had an 8ohm amp and a 4 ohm cab I'd only have half, so would have to get another cab to get the full power out of it? And having a 4 ohm amp with an 8 ohm cab would be pointless? lol clueless aren't I edit: and also having a crap cab at any ohms would be pointless too? lol Edited March 29, 2010 by Sarah5string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) Yep, it's one of those curious things to get your head around, Sarah. I know you were looking originally at the Ashdown Little Giant range and they need 4ohms cabinets to work at all well. As a for instance, I have a Genz Benz Shuttle 600w amp which when used with one 8ohms cab produces 375W. If I then add my other 8ohm cabinet the resistance drops to 4ohms and I get the full 600w +. The best option is usually going to be second hand. My mate Dave has one for sale here... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=69315"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=69315[/url] It wouldn't cost a deal to add another cab to this... Edited March 29, 2010 by OutToPlayJazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='789899' date='Mar 29 2010, 08:42 PM']Yep, it's one of those curious things to get your head around, Sarah. I know you were looking originally at the Ashdown Little Giant range and they need 4ohms cabinets to work at all well. The best option is usually going to be second hand. My mate Dave has one for sale here... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=69315"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=69315[/url] It wouldn't cost a deal to add another cab to this...[/quote] Aww looked good but too far away for me. Plus Ideally I'd like a seperate head that I can take to rehearsals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 Another question (sorry :lol) I'm looking at getting a head first then a cab after as I said before, would I be able to use it with my 1x15 laney combo, somehow bypassing the inbuilt laney amp? I've no idea what ohm the speaker is though I'll go check.. lol I feel like I should be blonde! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 Well this thread says it's either 4 or 8 ohms.. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6419&st=0&p=68201&#entry68201"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...amp;#entry68201[/url] god I suck.. This is all new to me. Considering I have a fear of electricity I'm doing well to even be trying to understand this stuff :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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