dave hall or blowtorch??

[danbowskill]

hi bc's

im on the hunt for a dirty distortion,using a ashdown hyperdrive at mo with a bad monkey tube emulator!
ok sound!
but not what im looking for?i want a bit more grrrr
i have heard samples of both these pedals(around the price mark i want to go).
MXR M-181 Bass Blow Torch think you all know the 1
and [url="http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/Products,VT2-StandardDualbass.html"]http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/Products,VT2...rdDualbass.html[/url]

i know i will go for 1 or the other??
any ideas which one ??.........or any better?

cheers guys

[Phaedrus]

Can't comment on the DH item, but I'm currently using a mate's BlowTorch - it's a pretty versatile fuzz. TBH, with the Torch disengaged, I wouldn't rate it - it's barely a light grind, but with it engaged & the gain & blend cranked, it's a big fuzztastic sound. I use it for Starlight by Muse and everyone seems impressed.

I'm personally gonna give the El Grande a shot - soundclips are pretty close to what I want from a bass fuzz.

[url="http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=377&pmh=products/mxr"]http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=pr...mh=products/mxr[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6d9YzoCx3w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6d9YzoCx3w[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx59vZbei4k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx59vZbei4k[/url]


Mark

[danbowskill]

[quote name='Phaedrus' post='790170' date='Mar 30 2010, 01:21 AM']Can't comment on the DH item, but I'm currently using a mate's BlowTorch - it's a pretty versatile fuzz. TBH, with the Torch disengaged, I wouldn't rate it - it's barely a light grind, but with it engaged & the gain & blend cranked, it's a big fuzztastic sound. I use it for Starlight by Muse and everyone seems impressed.

I'm personally gonna give the El Grande a shot - soundclips are pretty close to what I want from a bass fuzz.

[url="http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=377&pmh=products/mxr"]http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=pr...mh=products/mxr[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6d9YzoCx3w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6d9YzoCx3w[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx59vZbei4k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx59vZbei4k[/url]


Mark[/quote]
cheers man :-) i do like the el grande!
i guess i want to get a lot of differnt sounds out of an distortion/overdrive so i can find what i think im after without having to shell out loads n then sell it if i dont like it (endless search :-( ).
not after the muse sound really! more a nick olivieri (q.o.t.s.a)sound,but im just running through a mosfet head?hence the dha.
think my max is £140?

[deej]

A DHA is more likely to get you a QOTSA sound. The valves will give you more of a warm, grittier sound.

The Blowtorch is more like a synthy, electric fuzz. Its still a good pedal and retains a good powerful low end, but it doesnt sound like what you're after to me.

[hellothere]

I bought a blowtorch off someone from here recently. I like it and it does the job i want it too. looking for after seeing what other people say about it it seems to be an aquired taste though.

[throwoff]

[quote name='deej' post='790911' date='Mar 30 2010, 06:33 PM']A DHA is more likely to get you a QOTSA sound. The valves will give you more of a warm, grittier sound.

The Blowtorch is more like a synthy, electric fuzz. Its still a good pedal and retains a good powerful low end, but it doesnt sound like what you're after to me.[/quote]

Thats pretty much as on the money as I could put it. Blowtorch is definatly the less natural of the two but its an incredible noise.
I use a EH Bass Blogger as I simply adore the EH sound and vibe, they may well be the only company that I like every single product from.

If I may throw a cuveball?! EH Bass Big Muff?

[citizenerased]

If it's a dirty distortion you want, I wouldn't go for the blowtorch. I also use it for Starlight and Time is Running Out by Muse - it's excellent for these sounds, but as previously said, it's more of an understated synth sound - and I agree that without the "torch" button on, it's not that impressive.

[fretmeister]

I use a EHX Metal Muff with a Boss Line Selector to split a bit of clean off.
The Metal Muff is a very good pedal for bass, the EQ is really powerful and it can go from light grit to stupid gain.

It also has the extra Top Boost to add a bit of drive and treble to cut through for solos if you do that sort of thing.


I totally nail the Hysteria tone with the MM, LS2 and a Digitech Bass Synth Wah

[basshead56]

Of the two options you have listed, would be more inclined to go with the DH.
I had a blowtorch for a wee wee bt when they came out, and I just couldn´t get on with it.
Tried so many basses and amp combinations and tried every possible combination of adjustments and settings and couldn´t get the sound I was after. It did come close in places, but just not the rel thing.
Have you considered the Electro Harmonix range at all? as another person has said on here?
I use only EHX stuff now (aside from a Fender PT tuner and Boss PSM 5 (effects loop/poweer supply unit) and they make some amazing pedals-nothing really gets near them in terms of warmth and clarity-unless its got valves in it.
And if ts fuzz and distorton you´re after, try the Bass Big Muff-amazing lttle box.
Also worth considering is the newer green Muff with Tone Wicker-great sound.
Another idea might be to try and track down a Mesa Boogie Bottle Rocket or V Twin-expensive and also a unique sound.
The only other alternative I would consider might be the Fender Sub-Lime Bass Fuzz.
Huge pedal, but bgger sound!