Fender Jazz - Super Dodgy

[AndyTravis]

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Jazz-Bass-60s-Vintage-Rare-WITH-SOUND-DEMO_W0QQitemZ250608109305QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item3a596846f"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Jazz-Bass-60s...h=item3a596846f[/url]


It looks like a Squier Classic Vibe with a Mexi Standard Waterslide Decal on the headstock.

The guy hasn't got a clue what he's selling.

"This is one of the only Early Korean Jazz reissues iv'e ever seen and i'm proud to say iv'e owned it for a long time. These Basses where made by Fender in the late 70's early 80's with the same production method as the USA Factory before CBS took over the
company."

Stinks of Bullshit, i'd probe further and tell him he's full of sh*te, but he probably already knows.

Hope no mums and dads, or kids who've saved get caught up in this.

[Bassassin]

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='794731' date='Apr 2 2010, 11:41 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Jazz-Bass-60s-Vintage-Rare-WITH-SOUND-DEMO_W0QQitemZ250608109305QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item3a596846f"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Jazz-Bass-60s...h=item3a596846f[/url]


It looks like a Squier Classic Vibe with a Mexi Standard Waterslide Decal on the headstock.

The guy hasn't got a clue what he's selling.

"This is one of the only Early Korean Jazz reissues iv'e ever seen and i'm proud to say iv'e owned it for a long time. These Basses where made by Fender in the late 70's early 80's with the same production method as the USA Factory before CBS took over the
company."

Stinks of Bullshit, i'd probe further and tell him he's full of sh*te, but he probably already knows.

Hope no mums and dads, or kids who've saved get caught up in this.[/quote]

And it's a relist - this sold on March 21st for £430:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Jazz-Bass-60s-Vintage-Rare-WITH-SOUND-DEMO_W0QQitemZ250597151360"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Jazz-Bass-60s...emZ250597151360[/url]

I can't imagine why it's been relisted.

Jon.

[iconic]

funny I looked at this and thought, nice looking bass

[Beedster]

Guys, if you KNOW it's fake (and I'm sure you're right), report it, or contact the previous buyer and get him/her to report it. Otherwise some kid probably will get a crap Easter pressie!

C

[ahpook]

[quote name='Beedster' post='794856' date='Apr 3 2010, 09:46 AM']Guys, if you KNOW it's fake (and I'm sure you're right), report it, or contact the previous buyer and get him/her to report it. Otherwise some kid probably will get a crap Easter pressie!

C[/quote]

plus the one...i would if i had enough nouse to say for sure.

[warwickhunt]

Are you sure that it's a CV bass? It that's the case then he's gone to the trouble (and done a good job) of completely refinishing the back and front of the headstock and he's blended the refin in with the neck! I would say that looking at it, the bass has 4 ply s'plate and a thicker Rosewood f'board than the CV that I had and the covers aren't off a CV.

I'm not saying that it isn't a Fender clone or a Bitsa Jazz and his patter does stink but how so sure that it isn't a MIJ/CIJ/MIM?

You can always comment/query his youtube vid.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwtrR6Puk2k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwtrR6Puk2k[/url]

[AndyTravis]

It may not be a CV, I said 'looks like'.

Theres just something not right about it.

[warwickhunt]

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='795099' date='Apr 3 2010, 03:22 PM']It may not be a CV, I said 'looks like'.

Theres just something not right about it.[/quote]

tbh the guy's patter is what's not right for me.

I suppose a skeg of the serial number would tell you what it 'should' be, from there it should be possible to identify what it is that is flagging up the warning signs for you.

[MB1]

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='795099' date='Apr 3 2010, 03:22 PM']It may not be a CV, I said 'looks like'.

Theres just something not right about it.[/quote]

MB1.
..."There!...and if you listen!...It Sounds like a Golf!"

[LukeFRC]

Interestingly If you look at his other videos he describes it as a USA std Jazz, and a heavy one....

[LukeFRC]

actually thats a totally different bass isnt it!

[richrips]

is it stupid to mention that the video is of a left handed bass not a right handed one as advertised? Any seller worth their salt would be putting the serial number up so that punters can do their own homework to confirm when/where this was made. the worst bit is, this is a sweet looking bass which would be just the job for my future 70's porn soundtrack covers band......alas.

[ednaplate]

I'm surprised how nobody has commented on the fact he's advertising a right handed bass but on the linked video (and all his other videos) he's playing left handed.

[ednaplate]

Oops someone was thinking the same as me.

...also if you copy the link into the google bit of your browser it takes you to a vintage guitar website with some oddly priced items for sale. It's gone 1am and I have my tired, cynical head on.

Edited April 4, 2010 by ednaplate

[iconic]

The vender kindly mailed me the serial number of E1047713....this number has too many numbers to be a Fender if this list below is correct or the bargain of the century as US made /79/80/81 jazz bass and they made an aweful lot of them so neaded an extra number...I'm no Fender expert...or it's a Korean Squier from 1990 ish..I give up...but the headline describes it as 60's jazz bass.....!!!

Serial Number on Peghead Decal.
U.S. made Fenders, starting in mid-1976 has the serial number on the peghead. Note the following number could be off as much as two years. Generally speaking, a "S" prefix equals the 1970's, "E" prefix equals the 1980's, and "N" prefix equals the 1990's. Note "E" and "N" prefix models are sometimes also Japanese-made (see below).
7600000 ("76" in bold) = 1976-1977
800000s = 1979-1981
1000000 to 8000000 = 1976-1981 (7 digits)
S100000's-S600000's = 1979-1982
S700000's to S770000's = 1977
S740000's to S800000's = 1978
S810000's to S870000's = 1979
S880000's to S980000's = 1980
S950000's to S990000's = 1981
[b]E000000's to E100000's = 1979-1982[/b] E200000's = 1982
E300000's to E310000's = 1983
E320000's to E390000's = 1984-1985
E400000's = 1984, 1985, 1987
E800000's = 1988-1989
E900000's = 1989-1990
N900000's = 1990
N000000's = 1990-1991
N100000's = 1991
N200000's = 1992
N300000's = 1993
N400000's = 1994
N500000's = 1995
N600000's = 1996
N700000's = 1997
N800000's = 1998
N900000's = 1999
Japanese Serial Numbers

JV+ 5 digits 1982-1984
SQ + 5 digits 1983-1984
[b]E + 6 digits 1984-1987 [/b]
A + 6 digits 1985-1986
B + 6 digits 1985-1986
C + 6 digits 1985-1986
F + 6 digits 1986-1987
G + 6 digits 1987-1988
H + 6 digits 1988-1989
I + 6 digits 1989-1990
J + 6 digits 1989-1990
K + 6 digits 1990-1991
L + 6 digits 1991-1992
M + 6 digits 1992-1993
N + 6 digits 1993-1994
O + 6 digits 1993-1994
P + 6 digits 1993-1994
Q + 6 digits 1993-1994
S + 6 digits 1994-1995
T + 6 digits 1994-1995
U + 6 digits 1995-1996
N + 5 digits 1995-1996
V + 6 digits 1996-1997

Korean Squiers
CN/VN: C = Cor-Tek (Cort), V = Saehan(Sunghan), S was already taken by Samick so Saehan(Sunghan) used V instead (Saehan(Sunghan) made the Vester guitars), N = Nineties (1990s), the first number following the serial number prefix is the year.

For example

"CN5" = made by Cor-Tek (Cort) in 1995.
"VN5" = made by Saehan(Sunghan) in 1995.
KC/KV: KC (Korean Cor-Tek (Cort)) and KV (Korean Saehan(Sunghan)), the serial number prefix is followed by a 2 number year.

For example

"KC97" = made by Cor-Tek (Cort) in 1997.
"KV97" = made by Saehan(Sunghan) in 1997.
KC and KV serial number prefixes are usually used on Crafted in Korea Squiers.

S/E: The S and E serial number prefix Korean Squiers are from the late 1980s/early 1990s. S = Samick, E = Young Chang, E letter serial numbers were used on Young Chang's Fenix brand guitars [3]. The first number following the serial number prefix is the year.

For example

"S9" = made by Samick in 1989.
"E0" = made by Sung-Eum in 1990.
"E1" = made by Sung-Eum in 1991.
There were also Korean Squier serials with no serial number prefix and 6 or 7 numbers and the first number is the year.

Edited April 4, 2010 by iconic

[warwickhunt]

Re. the left handed thing- I noted that all of his youtube vids have him playing 'left-handed' BUT I put that down to some weird video recording reversal type thing (I've seen it happen before) but not quite sure how that happens as just about any video that I've taken doesn't reverse the image... stills can mind.

<edit>

His listing now explains it - his Macbook flips the image!

Edited April 4, 2010 by warwickhunt