Leads - where do we get them ?

[fryer]

Hi, I have seen a recommendation on here somewhere for a member who makes or supplies leads. Could anyone tell me who it is ?

[Badass]

Checkout [b]OBBM[/b], a great guy with great cables

[Protium]

[quote name='Badass' post='801985' date='Apr 10 2010, 06:22 PM']Checkout [b]OBBM[/b], a great guy with great cables [/quote]

+1, excellent cables and service.

[fryer]

That's the one. Thank you

[gelfin]

Hi you may want to check out this company.

[url="http://www.chord.co.uk"]http://www.chord.co.uk[/url]

They mainly make Hi end cables for Hi Fi but a lot of them play in bands and are passionate about music.
The Chord "Cream" is their instrument cable, I use it and love it.

Here's a direct link to their instrument cable page.

[url="http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/1390.0.4.3?q=cream&x=0&y=0"]http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/1390....amp;x=0&y=0[/url]

Edited April 10, 2010 by gelfin

[JackLondon]

[quote name='gelfin' post='802213' date='Apr 10 2010, 10:54 PM']Hi you may want to check out this company.

[url="http://www.chord.co.uk"]http://www.chord.co.uk[/url]

They mainly make Hi end cables for Hi Fi but a lot of them play in bands and are passionate about music.
The Chord "Cream" is their instrument cable, I use it and love it.

Here's a direct link to their instrument cable page.

[url="http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/1390.0.4.3?q=cream&x=0&y=0"]http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/1390....amp;x=0&y=0[/url][/quote]

Now point me to the difference between those cables and OBBM apart of being 4 times more expensive ?

[JakeBrownBass]

[quote name='JackLondon' post='802253' date='Apr 11 2010, 12:26 AM']Now point me to the difference between those cables and OBBM apart of being 4 times more expensive ?[/quote]

Absolutely nothing!!

[Stylon Pilson]

[quote name='JackLondon' post='802253' date='Apr 11 2010, 12:26 AM']Now point me to the difference between those cables and OBBM apart of being 4 times more expensive ?[/quote]

People who have spent 4 times as much on a lead will believe that the lead is 4 times better. This will give them a confidence boost, and they will play better as a result. Don't knock the placebo effect - it achieves real and measurable results.

S.P.

[discreet]

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='802364' date='Apr 11 2010, 09:40 AM']Don't knock the placebo effect - it achieves real and measurable results.[/quote]

That's right! When I chose homeopathy over a triple heart bypass operation, I -- glurk! (Thud).

[voxpop]

[quote name='gelfin' post='802213' date='Apr 10 2010, 10:54 PM']Hi you may want to check out this company.

[url="http://www.chord.co.uk"]http://www.chord.co.uk[/url]

They mainly make Hi end cables for Hi Fi but a lot of them play in bands and are passionate about music.
The Chord "Cream" is their instrument cable, I use it and love it.

Here's a direct link to their instrument cable page.

[url="http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/1390.0.4.3?q=cream&x=0&y=0"]http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/1390....amp;x=0&y=0[/url][/quote]


[u][b]I can get Chord Cream cables direct from the manufacturer at a great price.......... PM me with your requirements.[/b][/u]

[SS73]

Pm'd Voxpop.

[firmo]

Does OBBM have a a shop or is it just a special Basschat service he provides?

[sk8]

[url="http://www.bassic.co.uk/"]http://www.bassic.co.uk/[/url]

[Stylon Pilson]

[quote name='discreet' post='802371' date='Apr 11 2010, 09:46 AM']That's right! When I chose homeopathy over a triple heart bypass operation, I -- glurk! (Thud).[/quote]

Heh, I'm not trying to suggest that the placebo effect is necessarily stronger than a treatment that has been scientifically proven to give benefits. It's more the case that if you have a patient who needs a triple heart bypass, and the two options are (1) a homeopathic remedy, or (2) nothing whatsoever, then the patient in the first group will have a [i]marginally[/i] higher chance of survival. But the same would be true if you gave them a normal sugar pill (which, technically, is what a homeopathic remedy actually is) and told them that it was a homeopathic pill.

In this case, if you have two cables that are indistinguishable in a double-blind study, and hence functionally identical, you can gain a marginal benefit by playing the psychological game. As long as the subject doesn't know that this is what's happening, of course.

S.P.

Edited April 12, 2010 by Stylon Pilson

[discreet]

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='803906' date='Apr 12 2010, 04:54 PM']In this case, if you have two cables that are indistinguishable in a double-blind study, and hence functionally identical, you can gain a marginal benefit by playing the psychological game. As long as the subject doesn't know that this is what's happening, of course.[/quote]

Agree with you actually, was just havin' a bit laff.

[Ancient Mariner]

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='803906' date='Apr 12 2010, 04:54 PM']Heh, I'm not trying to suggest that the placebo effect is necessarily stronger than a treatment that has been scientifically proven to give benefits. It's more the case that if you have a patient who needs a triple heart bypass, and the two options are (1) a homeopathic remedy, or (2) nothing whatsoever, then the patient in the first group will have a [i]marginally[/i] higher chance of survival. But the same would be true if you gave them a normal sugar pill (which, technically, is what a homeopathic remedy actually is) and told them that it was a homeopathic pill.

In this case, if you have two cables that are indistinguishable in a double-blind study, and hence functionally identical, you can gain a marginal benefit by playing the psychological game. As long as the subject doesn't know that this is what's happening, of course.

S.P.[/quote]

Completely off OT but following this one. I share an office, and opposite me sits a chap developing a test system to demonstrate the effectiveness of homeopathic medicine. While I do have some questions about his work, he does appear to be generating data that suggests there IS some kind of effect, and just as importantly, how that effect can be eliminated. I believe he's presented to the Royal society quite recently and is talking at Cafe Scientifique in Oxford this Thursday. Stephen is a Biochemist by original training.

My instinct is to assume it's all smoke and mirrors, but there has been interesting data coming out. BTW the important part is not the dilution (which everyone knows and mocks) but the 'succussion' shaking/mixing technique, which no-one ever seems to have heard of.

Interesting, no?

BTW the main difference between the Cream and OBBM cables is likely the colour. And, as pointed out, the placebo effect. And if you use just 1 pedal with a decent buffer then you'll not easily notice the difference between even a high capacitance 'tone-sucking' normal cable and a very low capacitance cable.

Edited April 12, 2010 by Ancient Mariner