joy division - love will tear us part ?!

[daz]

No idea if this is the correct forum, cant make my mind up which one to post in sorry. Anywho. The famous track [i]Love will tear us apart[/i]. by [i]Joy Division[/i]. I looked it up on one of the many bass tab sites and find that people not even 100% sure that its a bass doing the main groove. Certainly sounds like Hooky to me. However apparently he appears to be playing chords on the bass in many instances ie: hitting E & A together i think, on the intro. Can anyone out there confirm this? I tried it and it sounds like my efforts on an old acoustic i used to own ie: awful. Can anyone tell me whats going on in this track. Even better would be if anyone has it in bass clef instead of tab.

[Sonic_Groove]

[quote name='daz' post='807391' date='Apr 15 2010, 05:18 PM']No idea if this is the correct forum, cant make my mind up which one to post in sorry. Anywho. The famous track [i]Love will tear us apart[/i]. by [i]Joy Division[/i]. I looked it up on one of the many bass tab sites and find that people not even 100% sure that its a bass doing the main groove. Certainly sounds like Hooky to me. However apparently he appears to be playing chords on the bass in many instances ie: hitting E & A together i think, on the intro. Can anyone out there confirm this? I tried it and it sounds like my efforts on an old acoustic i used to own ie: awful. Can anyone tell me whats going on in this track. Even better would be if anyone has it in bass clef instead of tab.[/quote]

He used an 8 string Sheargold for it I think

B

[keeponehandloose]

Pick out the melody on the G string ,all the time playing open D as a drone note.
Fist note is E on the G string with open D.

[nick]

[quote name='Sonic_Groove' post='807408' date='Apr 15 2010, 05:31 PM']He used an 8 string Sheargold for it I think

B[/quote]

No, Hooky used a Yamaha BB. He did use a Shergold 6 string later though.

[Jerry_B]

[quote name='keeponehandloose' post='807410' date='Apr 15 2010, 05:32 PM']Pick out the melody on the G string ,all the time playing open D as a drone note.
Fist note is E on the G string with open D.[/quote]

Yep, that's right!

[Jerry_B]

[quote name='nick' post='807421' date='Apr 15 2010, 05:46 PM']No, Hooky used a Yamaha BB. He did use a Shergold 6 string later though.[/quote]

At the time he seemed to use a Rick more than anything else.

[Sonic_Groove]

[quote name='nick' post='807421' date='Apr 15 2010, 05:46 PM']No, Hooky used a Yamaha BB. He did use a Shergold 6 string later though.[/quote]

Yeah sorry Hooky's was a 6 wasn't it -- at least we can remember the songs, apparently New Order can't remember some of them (See Moby story)

B

[iconic]

off topic but what a great phrase....[b]a drone note[/b][i][/i]

[daz]

[quote name='iconic' post='807976' date='Apr 16 2010, 08:00 AM']off topic but what a great phrase....[b]a drone note[/b][i][/i] [/quote]

Sort of like a bagpipe drone underneath it all. Er,, oh you know what i mean

[benebass]

[quote name='keeponehandloose' post='807410' date='Apr 15 2010, 05:32 PM']Pick out the melody on the G string ,all the time playing open D as a drone note.
Fist note is E on the G string with open D.[/quote]

This footage of Hooky playing it at a benefit gig shows the fingering pretty clearly - I always thought he did the drone on D too, but I don't think he is here, as he drops down to play the final few notes of the riff on the D: -

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BdAUXfO18"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BdAUXfO18[/url]

The intro/bridge bit is an A - looks like he's doing the octave & fifth as a chord.

Cheers,

B.

[teaser360]

[quote name='Jerry_B' timestamp='1271359230' post='807575']
At the time he seemed to use a Rick more than anything else.
[/quote]
Not a Rick, he used a Hondo (Rick Rep)

[benebass]

From the man himself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOsL16fcBXs

[mushers]

[quote name='benebass' timestamp='1356297025' post='1909000']
From the man himself...


[/quote]

awesome that opened my eyes thanks

Edited December 23, 2012 by mushers

[thunderider]

i always played it all on the d string!!...drone string...kewl...like lemmy in hawkwind....infact nearly all hw songs!!

[ahpook]

i've always played love will tear us apart with the open d too

hooky used drone strings quite a bit

here's a cracker

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zo4JdTfDw0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zo4JdTfDw0[/url]

Edited December 28, 2012 by ahpook

[Stag]

I like that a lot.

[Chris2112]

[quote name='benebass' timestamp='1271540499' post='809910'] This footage of Hooky playing it at a benefit gig shows the fingering pretty clearly - I always thought he did the drone on D too, but I don't think he is here, as he drops down to play the final few notes of the riff on the D: - [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BdAUXfO18"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BdAUXfO18[/url] The intro/bridge bit is an A - looks like he's doing the octave & fifth as a chord. Cheers, B. [/quote]

I love the original but that really strikes me as a dire cover. Pete Hook obviously giving it his all but a stiff backing band and dire singer don't help things.

[ahpook]

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1356852236' post='1914258']
Pete Hook obviously giving it his all but a stiff backing band and dire singer don't help things.
[/quote]

must be the band...hooky must be used to a dire singer by now

[Chris2112]

Pete Hook fans will also enjoy this. Awesome song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfRYGVWZilU

[tonyquipment]

love JD