Linus27 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='816567' date='Apr 23 2010, 07:02 PM']By the time Mozart was my age ... he'd been dead for 18 years.[/quote] Is that right? I thought you were close to Seventy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Tom Waits, a truely unconventional genius. Zappa too is truely worthy of the title, although he's too out there for my taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blamelouis Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Miles Davis Zappa Thelonious Monk Mingus Jaco Pastorius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpanda Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 If you write something and it becomes a number 1 hit, I don't think that it makes you a "genius"... it makes you good at song writing no doubt, maybe even just lucky... "Genius" is a stupid throwaway term, I've used it a few times and it didn't particularly mean anything. If something is so "genius" why aren't you sitting back and enjoying it, and instead thinking of stupid adjectives for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAHAM SG1 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 This is a good thread, someone mentioned Jello Biafra for lyrics, could not agree more, Jack Bruce was pretty good, Peter Green had a very nice style, there are so many but I would say that it all depends on whether you like the sound and style of the song, I know people who cannot stand Hendrix and dont rate him, Rory Gallagher, Brian Setzer, Eddie Cochran, Robert Trujillo, there are so many very talented players out there, who is to say if there are any genius`s amongst them ? Is genius defined by virtuosity on the instrument or the ability to write a nice simple melody ? Its all down to opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted April 26, 2010 Author Share Posted April 26, 2010 [quote name='GRAHAM SG1' post='819891' date='Apr 26 2010, 08:23 PM']This is a good thread, someone mentioned Jello Biafra for lyrics, could not agree more, Jack Bruce was pretty good, Peter Green had a very nice style, there are so many but I would say that it all depends on whether you like the sound and style of the song, I know people who cannot stand Hendrix and dont rate him, Rory Gallagher, Brian Setzer, Eddie Cochran, Robert Trujillo, there are so many very talented players out there, who is to say if there are any genius`s amongst them ? Is genius defined by virtuosity on the instrument or the ability to write a nice simple melody ? Its all down to opinions[/quote] Exactly. Sometimes you think you're not too too shabby a player, then you listen to likes of Victor Wooten and suddenly feel insignificant. We are not worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 JS Bach - the greatest writer of bass parts ever. Michael Manring Paco De Luca Yehudi Menuhin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notable9 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 (edited) James Jamerson..... Listen to any tune he ever played on and I think what you hear is every single note being played in the right place at the right time. I reckon that kinda verges on genius. In fact check out "Darling Dear", its real busy but every damn note is perfect......amazing. Edited April 26, 2010 by notable9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Derek Paravicini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Richard Thompson, Captain Beefheart, David Byrne, Tom Waits, Tom Verlaine, Bob Dylan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 [quote name='fretmeister' post='819937' date='Apr 26 2010, 09:00 PM']JS Bach - the greatest writer of bass parts ever.[/quote] Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I'm really struggling to think of someone musical who I regard as a genius. I can think of some great songwriters, drummers, guitarists, bass players even who are amazingly talented in there chosen field but a genius I really can't. I guess it depends of ones definition of a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 George Gershwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 [quote name='Linus27' post='820130' date='Apr 26 2010, 11:44 PM']I'm really struggling to think of someone musical who I regard as a genius. I can think of some great songwriters, drummers, guitarists, bass players even who are amazingly talented in there chosen field but a genius I really can't. I guess it depends of ones definition of a genius.[/quote] I don't think "genius" is the right word for what I think we're talking about here. Visionary seems more appropriate - people who have taken music in new & different directions, reinvented & redefined it. Just my perspective, but I don't think instrumental virtuosity has much - if anything - to do with it, except I suppose the broader the vocabulary, the greater the scope for expression. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foal30 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Miles Davis John Coltrane Charlie Parker Dizzy Gillespie Thelonius Monk Louis Armstrong Herbie Hancock James Brown Stevie Wonder Prince Pete Townsend Kate Bush Mark E Smith sometimes it's genius to make more of the sum of the parts on hand. all of these people could do that as well as having an original voice. genius is also making simple things beautiful, the complex both vast and close and making the listener both appreciate the moment and then be inside it. If that music makes me live it now or if I can remember exactly my brain space when I first heard In a Silent Way that is truly genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duarte Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 [quote name='Wil' post='819843' date='Apr 26 2010, 07:44 PM']Tom Waits, a truely unconventional genius.[/quote] What's he BUILDING in there!? Love the guy. I own all his albums (legally too!) I refer you to this tune by Howlett, my original post: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Do evil geniuses count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Many +1's in the posts above but I'd add: Mike Oldfield and Arvo Part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 [quote name='bubinga5' post='816766' date='Apr 23 2010, 10:04 PM']sorry but i know i said genius is in the eye of the beholder but 'Gary Barlow'????[/quote] This from the man who proposed Shakin' Stevens? Dunno if there's an award for the most pointless thread on Basschat ever, but for my money this is a clear winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robocorpse Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Tim Smith from Cardiacs. Real, true, solid gold genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude_b Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 [quote name='pete.young' post='821193' date='Apr 27 2010, 09:13 PM']This from the man who proposed Shakin' Stevens? Dunno if there's an award for the most pointless thread on Basschat ever, but for my money this is a clear winner.[/quote] Speaking only as an occasional contributor, I quite like reading threads like this - I've listened and got into lots of music on the back of seeing what other people like, whatever form the question is dressed up as. I even enjoy the occasional 'Adam Clayton is better than Jaco is better than Stanley Clarke whose tone is really rubbish' threads. I should therefore throw my tuppence in: Bass playing genius - Ray Brown, on the basis that, to my ear, his note selection, phasing and musicality is unreasonably perfect. Jolie Holland - for writing 'Mexican Blue' on her third album. George Clinton - for the whole thing about putting his sunglasses on in 'P-Funk'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Mike Patton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohpnyn Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 All of the avant-garde composers that were around in the USSR. Some absolutely insane stuff came from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 don't know if he's been mentioned before, but Brian Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosh Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Mike Patton -- Fantastic vocal ability Miles Davis -- "So What" is one of the most fantastic tracks ever (as is the whole "Kind of Blue" record) Tony Royster Jr -- Child drum prodigy, now a fantastic session/live musician Good ol' Victor! But has no one mentioned Larry Graham? The man invented slap bass! (whether that's good or bad, you decide) That's definitely genious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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