Music in weird time signatures

[Ajrt]

Been listening to 'Them Bones' by Alice in Chains -in 7/8. Also, i think Soundgarden use a weird time signature in 'Black Hole Sun'.

[Thunderthumbs]

Genesis "Turn It On Again" - 13/8 if my memory serves me right

[cLepto-bass]

[quote name='Thunderthumbs' post='818111' date='Apr 25 2010, 03:18 PM']Genesis "Turn It On Again" - 13/8 if my memory serves me right[/quote]


Thats odd, I was going to say Dancing on The Volcano, also by Genesis and I think also in 13. Could be wrong though.

[deathpanda]

Used to find the 7/8 part in this pretty hard, but it becomes easy when you start feeling it instead of thinking about it.

[deksawyer]

Mountains - Biffy Clyro. Great to play with a mix of time signatures.

D.

[witterth]

[quote name='Thunderthumbs' post='818111' date='Apr 25 2010, 03:18 PM']Genesis "Turn It On Again" - 13/8 if my memory serves me right[/quote]
You are correct sir.
btw, the theme music to "The Bill" (old one any way) was in 12/8 and a Phycologist friend of mine said,that was why it was hard to whistle/hum ..I see what she means come to think of it!
(I think they did eventually change it to 4/4 before bining it alltogether)

Edited April 25, 2010 by witterth

[OutToPlayJazz]

Many moons ago I played double bass for the premiere of a Colin Touchin piece which alternated between a bar of 13/8 and a bar of 5/8 all the way through.

I recently did a week of the musical, "Chess" and that one changes all the time. One particular part cycles through 5/8, 3/8, 7/8 & 6/8, changing every bar. Keeps you on your toes!

One of the most interesting ones is "America" from West Side Story. It's marked at the beginning of the piece 6/8:3/4, meaning that the whole piece consists of one bar of 6/8 followed by one bar of 3/4 over and over again.

[leftybassman392]

'Seventh Heaven' by The Fellowship (aka Guthrie Govan and friends) slides regularly between 7:8 and 4:4 at a very decent lick. Not the hardest here but up there I'd say.

[dudewheresmybass89]

Dance Of Eternity by Dream Theater, I'm learning it at the moment and it's bloody difficult!

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ[/url]

[Protium]

"Der Golem" by Fantômas goes through a few different ones. 9/8, 11/8 and 5/4 iirc

[deathpanda]

[quote name='dudewheresmybass89' post='818161' date='Apr 25 2010, 04:23 PM']Dance Of Eternity by Dream Theater, I'm learning it at the moment and it's bloody difficult!

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ[/url][/quote]

how about the solo section in the dark eternal night? now that's something else...

[bartelby]

TOOL's Lateralus changes from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8...

[Bassassin]

[quote name='bartelby' post='818174' date='Apr 25 2010, 04:34 PM']TOOL's Lateralus changes from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8...[/quote]
Exactly what I was going to post:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlC7oG_2W4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlC7oG_2W4[/url]

Jon.

[Pentode]

Tools' Schism (spelling?)

[lowdown]

[quote name='witterth' post='818125' date='Apr 25 2010, 03:42 PM']btw, the theme music to "The Bill" (old one any way) was in 12/8 and a Phycologist friend of mine said,that was why it was hard to whistle/hum ..I see what she means come to think of it!
(I think they did eventually change it to 4/4 before bining it alltogether)[/quote]


If she was trying to whistle that theme in 12/8 and finding it hard,
Could be possibly due to the fact that it's in 7/4..

Garry

[cLepto-bass]

Check this one out.

Mahavishnu Orchestra - Celestial Terrestrial Commuters

19/8!!

Enjoy.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13dQsbA5CI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13dQsbA5CI[/url]

[gnasher1993]

Pat Metheny - First Circle

22/8

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YA_Y5ejfKE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YA_Y5ejfKE[/url]

[Chris2112]

[quote name='lowdown' post='818197' date='Apr 25 2010, 04:58 PM']If she was trying to whistle that theme in 12/8 and finding it hard,
Could be possibly due to the fact that it's in 7/4..

Garry[/quote]

Great piece of music though! Especially the full length 1980's version!

[BottomEndian]

Melvins. Pretty much all of their stuff is in or passes through weird time signatures. Usually takes the form of missed or added beats. Love it all.

Some examples (all from their most recent album):

[Protium]

[quote name='uzzell' post='818340' date='Apr 25 2010, 07:14 PM']Check this one out.

Mahavishnu Orchestra - Celestial Terrestrial Commuters

19/8!!

Enjoy.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13dQsbA5CI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13dQsbA5CI[/url][/quote]

Surely that's 16ths

[lowdown]

[quote name='Chris2112' post='818381' date='Apr 25 2010, 07:50 PM']Great piece of music though! Especially the full length 1980's version![/quote]


Yep i do agree, co written by Andy Pask [An Excellent Bassist]

Garry

[Dandelion]

Anything by Meshuggah..

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='Dandelion' post='818441' date='Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM']Anything by Meshuggah..[/quote]
...kind of...

In the grand scheme of things, most of Meshuggah's stuff is in 4/4 (just listen to the drums and vocals). It's just that the riff lengths [i]aren't[/i] whole number of beats, so you get those lovely polyrhythmic loops. From the horse's mouth (via [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshuggah#Musical_style"]Wikipedia[/url]):
[quote][Mårten] Hagström notes about the polyrhythms, "We’ve never really been into the odd time signatures we get accused of using. Everything we do is based around a 4/4 core. It’s just that we arrange parts differently around that center to make it seem like something else is going on."[/quote]

[velvetkevorkian]

True, but they'll set you up for playing in odd time. And they're brilliant.

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='velvetkevorkian' post='818589' date='Apr 25 2010, 10:30 PM']True, but they'll set you up for playing in odd time. And they're brilliant.[/quote]
+1 on both points.