DirkThrust Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I'm trying to learn this but I can't hear what's going on in the second half of the verse riff. It's after the first 2 hammer ons and before the E and D octave pops. Has anyone got any idea. Tab or notation would be really helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Not sure what you mean... [url="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb1iy_sister-sledge-we-are-family_music"]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb1iy_sis...re-family_music[/url] Give us the bar count. The verse is pretty consistant...but as always with Edwards it was his left hand mute and heavy right hand that did so much damage. Key to this sort of thing, IMV...if the sound. get that right and it becomes a lot easier...get it a tad off..and it is so much harder, IMO. I think you might be talking about the octave jump triplet that he will throw in very sparingly. Something like root, 5th, root octave, root, root as a very fast 5 note flurry....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkThrust Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 It's probably not that important, just a couple of notes in the middle of the verse riff. I could stick anything in there and it would still sound ok. Just wondered if anyone had it written out. I do agree about getting the sound right though. My Precision just doesn't do it. Is he also using some compression on there to get that squelchy sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmeg Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 [quote name='AndyMartin' post='825487' date='May 2 2010, 01:32 PM']I'm trying to learn this but I can't hear what's going on in the second half of the verse riff. It's after the first 2 hammer ons and before the E and D octave pops. Has anyone got any idea. Tab or notation would be really helpful[/quote] If i am in the right place, it is simply hammer on G2A, h/o D2E then quickly to D then slide to E octave pop , then D octave pop. Took me ages to get the whole of this song down, only just got it. I checked out a few you tube clips. The best was marloweDK's lesson. He has the thing totally nailed to the original. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmeg Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 BTW, i think that a stingray or pre-amped sound is the best for this song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 You really need Stuart Clayton's excellent book: [url="http://www.basslinepublishing.com/tab/nile-rodgers-and-bernard-edwards-funk-and-disco-grooves.html"]http://www.basslinepublishing.com/tab/nile...co-grooves.html[/url] It's all in there. As he's a member here I wouldn't feel comfortable copying the tab (and presumably infringing his copyright?) for you but its basically a run of notes over an A7 scale then an octave thingy over Em7 and D9. +1 for Marlowe DK too but buy the book! Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkThrust Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 [quote name='bassmeg' post='825725' date='May 2 2010, 06:14 PM']D then slide to E octave pop[/quote] That's the bit. Actually quite simple but made to sound more complicated by 'nard's tricky style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmeg Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Yeah, it sounds more complicated than it is. Cant stop playing it at the moment. Well this and "Good times". Wish i could come up with lines anywhere near this sort of class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkThrust Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 [quote name='lonestar' post='825780' date='May 2 2010, 07:11 PM']You really need Stuart Clayton's excellent book: [url="http://www.basslinepublishing.com/tab/nile-rodgers-and-bernard-edwards-funk-and-disco-grooves.html"]http://www.basslinepublishing.com/tab/nile...co-grooves.html[/url] It's all in there. As he's a member here I wouldn't feel comfortable copying the tab (and presumably infringing his copyright?) for you but its basically a run of notes over an A7 scale then an octave thingy over Em7 and D9. +1 for Marlowe DK too but buy the book! Hope this helps[/quote] Yeah had a look at Marlowe. What a smug git. Killer player though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmeg Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 [quote name='AndyMartin' post='825827' date='May 2 2010, 07:45 PM']What a smug git.[/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Forget the P-bass..it will kill you on this... so no compression really required on a good jazz, for example...IMV. If you use a MM..then maybe you'll need more outboard. You need a boosted bridge pick-up and play hard down there....not so much hard as in dig in...but close to the bridge. Sometimes a delicate touch is better..... As with all things..he had his own style and owned it so did it effortlessly..the rest of us struggled..ha ha.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 [quote name='AndyMartin' post='825817' date='May 2 2010, 07:36 PM']That's the bit. Actually quite simple but made to sound more complicated by 'nard's tricky style[/quote] and if you can fit an open low E before the D you'll get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkThrust Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 [quote name='JTUK' post='825872' date='May 2 2010, 08:44 PM']Forget the P-bass..it will kill you on this... so no compression really required on a good jazz, for example...IMV. If you use a MM..then maybe you'll need more outboard. You need a boosted bridge pick-up and play hard down there....not so much hard as in dig in...but close to the bridge. Sometimes a delicate touch is better..... As with all things..he had his own style and owned it so did it effortlessly..the rest of us struggled..ha ha..[/quote] Yeah I've got the Precision strung with heavy flats with quite a high action which is ideal for the pub rock bands I'm in but I'm really struggling to play this style on it. I know people say it's all in the fingers but you need the right tools for the job and a Stingray definitely lends itself to this style. Looking around YT the guys playing covers of BE's basslines all seem to play with a very light touch which is something I need to practise. The old chiche of "it's not what you play but what you don't play" seems to be very appropriate here. When I first listened to this track it seemed that my brain was adding notes into the rests BE played but what I actually need to do is practise is getting the timing spot on. My respect for him grows every time I try and play his basslines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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