Eden Head - Which Cab?

[Randy_Marsh]

I have an Eden WT400 and was wondering which cabs i can use? It says 4ohms on the back of the amp, but would i be able to use an 8 ohm cab or different?

I've attached a pic for reference

[lemmywinks]

Yep, if you're amp goes down to 4ohms you can run 1x4 ohm cab, 2x8ohm cabs or 1x8ohm cab
Running one 8ohm cab you will get 235w out of the amp, specs here:
[url="http://www.eden-electronics.com/products/amps/indiv/wt400.asp"]http://www.eden-electronics.com/products/a...indiv/wt400.asp[/url]

There's a handy sticky on impedance here:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=135"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=135[/url]

[JTUK]

With that head..... a 2x12 cab at 4 ohms??

a D212XLT might be overkill, and since you are halfway into the lightweight route, maybe a couple of single 12's ( 8 ohms ) paired up...as in GS112 by Aguilar or the like

[discreet]

What about the new Barefaced 4 ohm 2 X 12?

[url="http://barefacedbass.com/index.php?page=super-twelve"]Super Twelve[/url]

[Chopthebass]

The Eden 410XLT is a great cab and you can get it in 4 or 8 ohms. Or the 410XST which seems to have more of a mid-scoop. People usually mix an XST with an XLT. I have a 210XST and 410XLT on order. The 210 goes deepest out of all the Eden cabs (on paper that is). I'm only suggesting these because you haven't said whether wight is an issue! And these are pretty heavy.
Good luck.

[alanbass1]

I have a WT400 (great great amps) and have paired it up with two Bergantino 1x12's, two EA CXL112's and also with a 4 ohm Epifani UL210. The amp shone with all three combinations, but the cabs I have kept above the other combinations is the Bergantino's.

[Randy_Marsh]

thanks for the help guys. here was me ruling out all 8ohm cabs because i thought it might damage the head lol. I'll start looking into more cabs now. was thinking of maybe two Ashdown 8 ohm cabs (im poor you see) or a warwick 4x10 at 4 ohms.

[lemmywinks]

Have a butchers at these:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=85779&hl=nemesis"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...&hl=nemesis[/url]

Or this:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=84225"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=84225[/url]

Both great deals and quality cabs

[bumnote]

[quote name='Randy_Marsh' post='828092' date='May 5 2010, 12:48 AM']thanks for the help guys. here was me ruling out all 8ohm cabs because i thought it might damage the head lol. I'll start looking into more cabs now. was thinking of maybe two Ashdown 8 ohm cabs (im poor you see) or a warwick 4x10 at 4 ohms.[/quote]

I use mine with a mixture of an ashdown 4x8 and or an ashdown 4x8 or a 2x15.

Really the only thing you cant use without fiddling about with the wiring is 2 4 ohm cabs.

Great Amp

[alanbass1]

[quote name='bumnote' post='828161' date='May 5 2010, 09:19 AM']Really the only thing you cant use without fiddling about with the wiring is 2 4 ohm cabs.

Great Amp[/quote]

Be careful with statements like this. It is my understanding that Eden made a number of changes (including structural) to improve cooling in their amps to be able to run at 2ohms (i.e. 2 x 4ohm cabs). Running at 2ohms at high volumes on a WT400 will likely lead to overheating and can severely damage the amp.

[Randy_Marsh]

[quote]Have a butchers at these:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...&hl=nemesis"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...&hl=nemesis[/url]

Or this:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=84225"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=84225[/url]

Both great deals and quality cabs[/quote]

I did very dearly want those nemesis cabs, but i am honestly so skint i actually cant afford two. I've managed to find a Warwick Pro 411 4ohm for £190 which i think is quite a good deal

[discreet]

[quote name='Randy_Marsh' post='828479' date='May 5 2010, 02:39 PM']I've managed to find a Warwick Pro 411 4ohm for £190 which i think is quite a good deal[/quote]

That is a very good deal.

[Raslee]

I realy rate the Warwick cabs, i had a 6x10 version whcih was a great cab. Having said that i have just passed on a Eden 2x10xLT which was like a rolls royce of cabs and had more bass than most 4x10's that i played. Eden heads & Eden cabs really make for killer rigs IMO.

[bumnote]

[quote name='alanbass1' post='828441' date='May 5 2010, 01:57 PM']Be careful with statements like this. It is my understanding that Eden made a number of changes (including structural) to improve cooling in their amps to be able to run at 2ohms (i.e. 2 x 4ohm cabs). Running at 2ohms at high volumes on a WT400 will likely lead to overheating and can severely damage the amp.[/quote]


I was

The Wt 400 wont run down to 2 ohms the wt 550 will

I said you CANT run 2 four ohm cabs without fiddling about [but you could run it with the speakers rewired to 8 ohms]

[jhk]

[quote name='Rasta' post='828525' date='May 5 2010, 03:23 PM']I realy rate the Warwick cabs, i had a 6x10 version whcih was a great cab. Having said that i have just passed on a Eden 2x10xLT which was like a rolls royce of cabs and had more bass than most 4x10's that i played. Eden heads & Eden cabs really make for killer rigs IMO. [/quote]

+1

[alanbass1]

[quote name='bumnote' post='828715' date='May 5 2010, 05:32 PM']I was

The Wt 400 wont run down to 2 ohms the wt 550 will

I said you CANT run 2 four ohm cabs without fiddling about [but you could run it with the speakers rewired to 8 ohms][/quote]

I misunderstood - Ithought you meant by changing the internals of the amp somehow.

[bumnote]

[quote name='alanbass1' post='830293' date='May 7 2010, 08:01 AM']I misunderstood - Ithought you meant by changing the internals of the amp somehow.[/quote]


No worries

I was just trying to reassure the op that he didnt have to worry too much about cabs unless he wanted to buy two 4 ohm cabs. [or mix impedances]

[Randy_Marsh]

Is it hard to re wire a cab from 4 ohms to 8?

[bumnote]

It probably cant be done but it depends on what speakers you are using and how many there are

If you are talking about the warwick cab, almost certainly not.

I probably shouldnt have even mentioned rewiring because it just tends to confuse.

Look at lemmy winks post of what you can and cant do.

As a general rule you can use with your wt400 to drive a 4 ohm or an 8 ohm load.

That will be 1 4 ohm cab, or 1 8 ohm cab,

You can also use 2 8 ohm cabs by using the 2 speaker outputs in the back of the amp, which are wired in such a way as to give a total impedance of 4 ohms when 2 8 ohm cabs are connected.

2 cabs are usually louder than 1, but you have to buy them, and store them, and transport them.

If you are skint, the warwick cabinet should work ok but TRY BEFORE YOU BUY

The only drawback is that you wont practically be able to add another cab at a later date. If you need more output later, you would be better off selling the warwick and buying 2 8 ohm cabs,

[Randy_Marsh]

thanks a lot bumnote. some good advice for me there, i'll stick with this warwick cab atm and then if i need more power afterwards i'll look into the 2 8ohm cab option