Doddy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 So,I finished teaching tonight and before I left I helped a girl set the PA up in the rehearsal room,because she obviously didn't have a clue even though she was only using a mic and a CD player.(Her mum was there too,who was a bit of a no nothing,know it all-despite the girl being in her mid 20's). Anyway,we were talking and she was telling me how she has been a pro singer for a few years and that she was looking for a pro band,so I asked her what kind of thing she was looking to do(always after work y'know). She tells me that she want's to do a pop band and that she wants guitar,drums and keys."What about Bass?" I asked,only to be told that she didn't want bass guitar because "It's too low for my voice,so I only want a normal guitar" So,she's a pro singer who doesn't know how to turn a PA on,and has no idea about what a bass does. She was indeed an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLondon Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 You should have said that you can always tune up to the guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Pro band with no bass?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I blame Simon Cowell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Not surprised. The ability of some people to delude themselves is astounding..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Quiet Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='829256' date='May 6 2010, 06:57 AM']I blame Simon Cowell[/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bass Doc Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 You should have suggested a bass player could stand on a box to make the notes higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassatnight Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 A case of another wannabe wanting instant success without learning your art! Agree the Cowell generation are taking music backwards at a very fast rate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 You could always play up the neck...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='829256' date='May 6 2010, 06:57 AM']I blame Simon Cowell[/quote] +2 and top of the pops miming and karaoke-kroakie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 It's nothing specific to music. Loads of people speak with authority on things they know absolutely nothing about. God knows why, and I wish they'd stop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote name='Doddy' post='829240' date='May 6 2010, 01:20 AM']So,I finished teaching tonight and before I left I helped a girl set the PA up in the rehearsal room,because she obviously didn't have a clue even though she was only using a mic and a CD player.(Her mum was there too,who was a bit of a no nothing,know it all-despite the girl being in her mid 20's). Anyway,we were talking and she was telling me how she has been a pro singer for a few years and that she was looking for a pro band,so I asked her what kind of thing she was looking to do(always after work y'know). She tells me that she want's to do a pop band and that she wants guitar,drums and keys."What about Bass?" I asked,only to be told that she didn't want bass guitar because "It's too low for my voice,so I only want a normal guitar" So,she's a pro singer who doesn't know how to turn a PA on,and has no idea about what a bass does. She was indeed an idiot.[/quote] Actually it sounds like an opportunity to offer some classes in "basic PA setting up for mothers and daughters" and " the fundimentals of a band" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote name='cheddatom' post='829326' date='May 6 2010, 09:15 AM']It's nothing specific to music. Loads of people speak with authority on things they know absolutely nothing about. God knows why, and I wish they'd stop![/quote] Quite agree! And as someone who knows nothing, I speak with great authority all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote name='The Bass Doc' post='829281' date='May 6 2010, 08:12 AM']You should have suggested a bass player could stand on a box to make the notes higher.[/quote] [url="http://www.instantrimshot.com/"]i fankayooo[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 She'll need someone in the band who can remind her to breath every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Reminds me of a song:- Oh, welcome to this world of fools Of pink champagne and swimming pools Well, all you have to lose is your virginity Perhaps we'll have some fun tonight So stick around and take a bite of life We don't need feebleness in this proximity..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Funk Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote name='cheddatom' post='829326' date='May 6 2010, 09:15 AM']It's nothing specific to music. Loads of people speak with authority on things they know absolutely nothing about. God knows why, and I wish they'd stop![/quote] Couldn't agree more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I wonder how long she'd been standing outside the studio not knowing when to come in & not being able to find the key? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I was thinking about this last night. Music and bettering ones musical skills seems to be one of those areas that people abandon critical thinking. Like any other skill, it requires you to learn the best way(s) to do things, different schools of thought, weigh these things up, practice, use critical feedback, assess your progress, work on trouble areas, and do this consistently and continually. But no. We get 'musicians' who want to be a singing/guitar god/goddess without learning scales, timing, rhythm (i.e. theory!), technique, how to read charts, how to read music, the roles of other instruments, and without practice... and aspire to be like other talentless celebs with similar qualities (or lack of quality). Stupid culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 [quote]It's nothing specific to music. Loads of people speak with authority on things they know absolutely nothing about. God knows why, and I wish they'd stop![/quote] Plus the freakin' one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I work with a girl (I play g***ar, she sings) & she knows very little about music. If she can't sing the key it's in she always gets the direction backwards, eg: if she wants me to go down a key she asks me to go up & knows ziltch about theory in any form whatsoever. But she's got a good voice & is a nice girl so I usually just ask her to sing & then I find her key (which 8 times out of 10 is Eb). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 (edited) Singing isn't the same as learning an instrument, you don't need to learn any theory and you don't have any equipment apart from your voice. I know guitarists who can't re-string a guitar after playing for several years and couldn't play you any scale if their life depended on it. To me, that's far more disappointing than someone who doesn't use equipment not being able to use a PA. As for the comment about bass being too low, she doesn't sound like the kind of person who'll be able to make it as a band leader anyway, so someone who is capable should correct her if she ever gets to that point. I doubt she'll find a pro band that'll play without some kind of bass instrument anyway. Edited May 6, 2010 by ThomBassmonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 MB1. ...So Thats why you dont see many Bass Players singing then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 If the bass was too heavy for her voice, you could always get one in a lighter colour yada da da da da baaaaaaaaarp bap! I thank you you've been a lovely audience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fudge Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'd put money on her having an inexplicably orange face to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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