mrcrow Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 kenny ball chas mcdevitt aker bilk ted heath johnny dankworth 'hump' chris barber monty sunshine..petit fleur oldies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 [quote name='mrcrow' post='837384' date='May 14 2010, 04:51 PM']kenny ball chas mcdevitt aker bilk ted heath johnny dankworth 'hump' chris barber monty sunshine..petit fleur oldies[/quote] Bit dodgy, some of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpanda Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 went to a jazz bar on wednesday to see my guitar tutor's jazz fusion band play, and I've got to admit that they played some of the best jazz I've ever heard. the bassist was out of this world, along the lines of jaco (no exaggeration) and the drummer was probably the best I've ever seen. half way into red baron they got into some heavy metric modulation, it made your heart skip a beat... they came back into the main riff and everyone was gobsmacked. I really don't understand how if the bassist pushed a note, the drummer followed, like just off the cuff... so yeah, if they had an album, that would be my top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Who were the players, dp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpanda Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 [quote name='Bilbo' post='837868' date='May 15 2010, 07:04 AM']Who were the players, dp?[/quote] the guitarist is Lewis Turner, not sure about the drummer or bassist, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkle Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Neil Cowley is doing great work, although I'd call many of his compositions near-classical, or rock. I also miss not having any bass improv, although the piano improv is great. I'm working my way down Mike Flynn's list now - I wasn't aware of all the others, save for one or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 [quote name='Earbrass' post='835352' date='May 12 2010, 03:04 PM']Carol Grimes - not perhaps so much for her recorded output (though there are some great tracks) but for the many fantastic gigs I've seen at the Vortex and other venues. Especially when her band has included pianist Janette Mason, who is a great player and composer on her own right. I especially love the work JM did with Robert Wyatt.[/quote] Oh! Carol Grimes! Takes me back .. Steve Lodder on keys then and Angelique what's her name on sax. She was very "instrumental" in me continuing with my sax playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGit Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 [quote name='urb' post='836044' date='May 13 2010, 11:57 AM']Try these out... British jazz is in rude health - except you won't hear/see ANY of it on TV (thanks to the BBC's obsession with chasing ratings) or read about it in the papers (outside of [url="http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/"]Jazzwise[/url] and a handful of reviews in the Grauniad and Independent) Neil Cowley Trio [url="http://www.myspace.com/neilcowleytrio"]http://www.myspace.com/neilcowleytrio[/url] TrioVD [url="http://www.myspace.com/triovd"]http://www.myspace.com/triovd[/url] Minghe Morte [url="http://www.myspace.com/minghemorte"]http://www.myspace.com/minghemorte[/url] Led Bib [url="http://www.myspace.com/ledbib"]http://www.myspace.com/ledbib[/url] Troyka [url="http://www.myspace.com/troykaband"]http://www.myspace.com/troykaband[/url] Outhouse [url="http://www.myspace.com/outhouseloop"]http://www.myspace.com/outhouseloop[/url] The Mighty Jeddo [url="http://www.myspace.com/themightyjeddo"]http://www.myspace.com/themightyjeddo[/url] The South Trio [url="http://www.myspace.com/thesouthtrio"]http://www.myspace.com/thesouthtrio[/url] Zed-U [url="http://www.myspace.com/zumusik"]http://www.myspace.com/zumusik[/url] Acoustic Ladyland [url="http://www.myspace.com/acousticladylandmusic"]http://www.myspace.com/acousticladylandmusic[/url] The Final Terror [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/introducing/artists/finalterror/"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/introducing/artists/finalterror/[/url] Polar Bear [url="http://www.myspace.com/sebastianrochford"]http://www.myspace.com/sebastianrochford[/url] Adam Waldmann [url="http://www.adamwaldmann.com/fr_home.cfm"]http://www.adamwaldmann.com/fr_home.cfm[/url] Portico Quartet [url="http://www.myspace.com/porticoquartet"]http://www.myspace.com/porticoquartet[/url] Manu Delago [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ojj7tgrqw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ojj7tgrqw[/url] M[/quote] On TV, prossibly not but quite a lot on BBC Radio. I've heard several of these on the [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/"]Radio 3 jazz[/url] and world music programmes. Plus the new [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rr86v"]Radio 2 Jazz programme with Jamie Cullum[/url]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 [quote name='OldGit' post='845829' date='May 23 2010, 04:04 PM']On TV, prossibly not but quite a lot on BBC Radio. I've heard several of these on the [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/"]Radio 3 jazz[/url] and world music programmes. Plus the new [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rr86v"]Radio 2 Jazz programme with Jamie Cullum[/url].[/quote] Absolutely jazz record requests on Radio 3 is very good, heard some great Django Bates and Loose Tubes stuff on there yesterday and Jazz on 3 with Jez Nelson is great, I've been lucky enough to go to several of their live broadcasts and they always pick some cool bands to play on the show, listen again on the iPlayer is the way to go with this stuff Oh yeah and Mike Chadwick, Sarah Weller and Helen Mayhew are all worth checking out in the evening on Jazz FM which is on DAB if you have it, daytime it still very 'smooooth jazz' which I can't stand... but the evening shows are very good, plus they are getting about 500K of listeners every week so well done Jazz FM. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkle Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Adam Waldmann (Kairos 4tet), Portico Quartet, and Manu Delago all sound great to me. Thanks for the list, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6stringbassist Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Martin Taylor has done some great stuff. He's got a new album out too, to celebrate what would have been Django Reinhards 100th birthday. I heard some tracks recently, it's very good ! He has some dates at Pizza Express next month, my friend is playing bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 [quote name='Faithless' post='837341' date='May 14 2010, 04:09 PM']It seems that 'Jaco syndrome' is a major issue for modern jazz bassists, innit? Hadrien Feraud is probably a best example for this.. A few years ago he sounded like a complete copy of the legend.. I'm glad he now got away with some sort of 'unique' sound after all. But still, there are dozens, and there probably will be. Just look at this Berklee cat: Not to mention, that he's a complete 'victim' of Jaco, I can't get it, how can he get his thing going in Berklee.. Whatever.. It got me thinking.. I've heard it dozen of times - Oh, this cat, sounds like a complete Jaco/Wooten/Garrisson/whatever.. Basically, bassplayer is compared to another bassplayer.. But, have you ever heard - Oh, this man [bassist] sounds like M.Davis/Korea/K.Garrett/Coltrane, whatever..?[/quote] I see very little of Jaco apart from harmonics but this video is everything that is wrong with emulating the modern day giants of bass too soon. This guy may end up being a great player but he seems to have it ALL back to front- pinching artificial harmonics and slapping away but when he comes to actually playing the bass is a traditional manner, he struggles. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrow Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 [quote name='bassace' post='837437' date='May 14 2010, 05:57 PM']Bit dodgy, some of these?[/quote] yes...they were sort of standalone bands...mainly acoustic sounding...sort of live jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathpanda Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 [quote name='Bilbo' post='837868' date='May 15 2010, 07:04 AM']Who were the players, dp?[/quote] Going to see them again on wednesday, they're back by popular demand. Found out the names, the bassist is Dave Troke and the drummer is Ed Williams. I might have sounded like I was exaggerating a little bit, but it truly was breath taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Stan Tracey? Allan Holdsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRev Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 [url="http://www.theblessing.co.uk/#awp::"]Get the blessing[/url] Contemporary jazz from Bristol/Bath featuring half of Portishead. Me likey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='Lenny B' post='835270' date='May 12 2010, 01:40 PM']+1 on The Steve Berry Trio album too, but I haven't heard it in along time as my vinyl player is packed away. I pass by Steve's house nearly everyday and had the pleasure of lessons from him back in 1993 ish. Superb player and top bloke. I had lessons from Steve in 96/97 - Superb player and top bloke indeed![/quote] Steve is a marvelous and truly inspirational character, I got lessons from him at Uni and he completely turns your head inside out with his ideas on music and really gets you thinking, not to mention being one of the most phenomenal musicians I've ever met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 [quote name='Bilbo' post='835106' date='May 12 2010, 10:29 AM']There has always been a general consensus that all of the best jazz comes from the US. I think that this has been challanged over the last couple of decades and that, in addition to jazz from Europe and the Far East, there has been a great deal of quality music coming out of the UK for the last 20 years or more. Following on from the talented but exceptional Tubby Hayes/Ronnie Scott/Jazz Couriers group (‘57 – ’59), we have seen major progress in the form of bands like Loose Tubes and the Delightful Precipice Orchestra and players like Courtney Pine, Iain Ballamy, John Taylor and Tommy Smith in the 80s and 90s. More recently, small groups like Neil Cowley’s Trio, Empirical, the FIRE Collective, etc have started to appear. So the question is, what British led jazz LPs have turned your head now or in the past? Ex-pats are welcome if they are long term residents of the UK. Defectors are excluded – Dave Holland, George Shearing etc – the choices must have been conceived and recorded within these shores. My favourites? For starters….. Kenny Wheeler – Flutter By, Butterfly (Canadian but here since 1950s) Kenny Wheeler – Music for Large and Small Ensembles Iain Ballamy – Balloon Man Loose Tubes – Delightful Precipice Django Bates – Winter Truce (and Homes Blaze) Bill Bruford’s Earthworks – 1st (1990) John Taylor Trio – Whirlpool Andy Sheppard’s Co-Motion – Rhythm Method Courtney Pine – Journey Ot The Urge WIthin Steve Berry Trio – 1st What British Jazz has done it for you.[/quote] Bilbo, whenever you do one of your lists it ends up costing me money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB26354 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I saw John Taylor years and years ago with Peter Erskine in Southampton. I've never heard a drummer play a solo that had was [i]melodic[/i] before or since. Also on the bill was John Apple crumble, sorry, Abercrombie in a trio with drummer Adam Nussbaum, who fell backwards off his drum stool (it wasn't fixed properly) right in the middle of a tune. Happy times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Being more into singers than instrumentals, how about Tina May - doesn't play an instrument, but you can actually hear her smile! Liane Carroll - plays amazing piano while singing a totally different (or totally same!) line. Used to smoke like a chimney during piano solos.. she's had to stop that, but it hasn't harmed her voice at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 [quote name='TheRev' post='873854' date='Jun 21 2010, 08:35 PM'][url="http://www.theblessing.co.uk/#awp::"]Get the blessing[/url] Contemporary jazz from Bristol/Bath featuring half of Portishead. Me likey.[/quote] good call! never heard them before but I'm liking the original sound.. with regards to the Cottle vs. Jaco debate, he learnt from Jaco way back when, which I guess has a lot to do with it. I've heard him play some more chilled stuff and he takes on a completely different character - although still maybe a bit generic. (the whole Cottle family are fantastic, I'm swansea born and raised and Dave Cottle owns the jazz club just down the road from my parents. got to see some wicked gigs, Laurence quite often was the in-house player. particularly remember seeing Bill Bruford come down - that was a cracking gig.) still, hats off to the guy, he toured with Sabbath - not many jazz players can say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher1993 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 A few of my favourite albums: If Destroyed Still True - Seven Dials Joel Purnell - Red Shift Dave O'Higgins - Sketchbook Paul Booth - Pathways Chris Potter - Ultrahang Empirical - Out 'n' In Troyka - Troyka Steve Melling - Solar Acoustic Triangle - Resonance Tony Kofi - The Silent Truth Gareth Lockrane - No Messin' John Taylor - Insight Ambulance - Accident and Insurgency Gwilym Simcock - Perception Cleveland Watkiss - Green Chimneys Dave Kane's Rabbit Project - The Eye Of The Duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 [quote name='EssentialTension' post='874024' date='Jun 21 2010, 11:23 PM']Bilbo, whenever you do one of your lists it ends up costing me money.[/quote] But how many of those purchases have you regretted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 [quote name='Bilbo' post='874470' date='Jun 22 2010, 03:04 PM']But how many of those purchases have you regretted [/quote] None of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcordez Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 [quote name='gnasher1993' post='874455' date='Jun 22 2010, 02:54 PM']A few of my favourite albums: If Destroyed Still True - Seven Dials Joel Purnell - Red Shift Dave O'Higgins - Sketchbook Paul Booth - Pathways Chris Potter - Ultrahang Empirical - Out 'n' In Troyka - Troyka Steve Melling - Solar Acoustic Triangle - Resonance Tony Kofi - The Silent Truth Gareth Lockrane - No Messin' John Taylor - Insight Ambulance - Accident and Insurgency Gwilym Simcock - Perception Cleveland Watkiss - Green Chimneys Dave Kane's Rabbit Project - The Eye Of The Duck[/quote] Good to Gareth Lochrane in there, he's a such a great player. You can hear some of his great playing on my myspace page. Lets not forget to mention Jason Rebello as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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