Shambo Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 (edited) What first caught my eye with this one was it's listed as a Precision Standard. Ive always assumed this to refer to the Mexican basses and the £500 start price was way too steep. Upon reading further, it seems this to have a JV serial number. A quick google later at [url="http://www.21frets.com/"]http://www.21frets.com/[/url] and there's mention that the first run of JV's had the Fender logo most prominent with a little Squier logo near the tip of the headstock like so... [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodypix/92135100/"]http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodypix/92135100/[/url] The advert shows the headstock with a small sanded area near the tip. My question is simple. Is this one of the first JV Precisions that was shipped to the UK? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Precision-Standard-Bass-Sunburst-/220612723002?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item335d8b013a"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Precision-Sta...=item335d8b013a[/url] Edited May 28, 2010 by Shambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Yes the first run of JV's had Fender decals and small Squier ones! The Serial matches to an early '82 JV, although I'd want a photo of the neck plate with readable Serial number. Could be nice, would wanna try it first though. My mate just bought a JV P and the truss rod needed to be glued Looks like horrible pickups and you probably won't find an original anytime soon. Wouldn't wanna pay much more than £500 for it! And what are 'Entwistle-esque' strings?.....are they coated in cocaine? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 i would guess it is. It looks like similar 'sen ash' wood body that my one has. If you could go have a try that could be a good bass. not sure how much a JV is worth though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 My 83' 'SQ' Series (the 70's styled 2nd lot of Japanese Squiers) is seriously my favourite bass. It only owes me £80 plus £30 for a used badass, a mate had it in the loft, and didn't plan on taking it when he moved down south... I choose this over Top line US Fenders a few Mexi Classic reissues and CIJ 62p, Rickenbacker 4003 and a Warwick. It had a Jazz Pickup fitted soon after purchase, and i've added a spare Fender Japan Pickguard from my Jap '62. It's a keeper. I'm hoping for the day when somebody walks in to my shop with a JV to part Ex. I think £500 is what i'd pay to get something as good as mine. But the sanded area is a real shame - Kind of ruins it. But, a nice Precision, Japanese, and a little bit of history behind it - How much would a shiny new Jap Bass be? It's the burst one in the middle. I say go and see it; it could be a future lifelong friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 [i]If[/i] this is an early JV and if it is like my early JV then it could be one of the best basses you could find. Mine is sublime. But then mine was my 'dream bass' and more or less perfect condition, I think I paid £650 with a case (????) I felt it was the top of what it was worth, but like i said after my first bass i started researching different basses and for some reason a JV squier '57RI was 'it', even over USA fender or fancy brands. However.... however much I would like it I would not pay £500 for it. Firstly it's got a fairly big dink or two, secondly the logo is gone (and the 'JV' resale value) thirdly you arent certain what it is, and fourthly there is a guy on this forum selling a status/trace elliot T bass for £500 in a warwick case and delivery.... I know what i would go for! From the description he doesn't know what he's got really, he's not selling it as a JV squier. I would wait till the auction plays and then message him saying you would like it but think that 500 is a bit steep and go from there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 What would be a more realistic price for this bass then? I haven't got a scooby doo how much JV basses are worth but I'm not so sure this seller doesn't have an inkling, hence the strong starting bid. Perhaps they're being a bit coy. There's not exactly a lack of information about them on the interwebs. Funny that somebody saw fit to remove the squier logo at some point, presumably they thought it made the bass look cheap, and now because the logo is missing it devalues the instrument. I'm interested in obtaining a beaten Jap Precision at some point but I won't be bidding for this one. For me, it just needs to be a nice playing example and cheap enough to use in rowdy pubs. An opportunity has just presented itself to buy a matching cab for my rig next week and left me shy of the asking price anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Just wait till it ends....if it doesn't sell, send the seller an offer (of an amount you're happy with), pending playing it obviously......all they can say is no! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 i just messaged him and asked about the squier logo sanded off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) Here is the gist of the reply i got off the guy selling the bass. "As far as I was concerned this bass according to the official Fender website is a genuine 1982 - 1984 with no logo sanded off. Surely there would be the name 'Squier' printed on the headstock as well as a logo." I dont know enough about Fender or Squier bass guitars made in Japan to comment. (hint ) Edited May 31, 2010 by daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 It doesn't matter what he thinks it is or isn't! He states it's a JV (pending seeing the neck plate).....so therefore it's a Squier! If it's an early one, which it seems to be, the Squier logo small, Fender logo large. Late '82 that changed to large Squier, small Fender Simple as that, JV = Squier Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) not necessarily - Fender also made basses with JV serials. I have also seen examples pop up for sale from time to time. JV just means Japan Vintage as the early models were designed to copy the original '57 & '62 original ones. SQ = Squier - hence the reason why MIJ Fenders tend to go from having a JV serial to an E one. There may be SQ ones but I've never seen one. Could the seller have a Fender and has sanded an area of the headstock to make people think that it may be a Squier? Values go up and down but I sold one in very good condition a few years ago for £400 - the serial number was in the low JV13**** range, just after they did the logo switcheroo Edited May 31, 2010 by Delberthot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='Delberthot' post='852525' date='May 31 2010, 12:34 PM'].... Could the seller have a Fender and has sanded an area of the headstock to make people think that it may be a Squier?..[/quote] You could be on to something there. I'm on my phone and can't be arsed opening up the pic again but I think I remember thinking when I first saw it that the sanded bit looked smaller than the logo would have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 But all the Fender decaled JV's have a small Squier logo on them...... Having said that, this is JV exports we're talking about, if we're talking Domestic JV's, then there's no reason why you'd "add a sanded area to make it look like an early Squier", by all accounts, the domestics were pretty much exactly the same spec as the Squiers: [url="http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/domesticjv.htm"]http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/domesticjv.htm[/url] I have an A series Jap Squier Precision which falls vaguely as an '85, but it's an 'SQ' spec. bass. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) Half way down this[url="http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/serialnumbersanddates.htm"]JV serial numbers[/url] at the serial number [b]JV076xx[/b] page it says "Squier logo sanded" ? whats that about ? Admitidly its is a strat not a P bass but still something of interest dontcha think?. also they all seem to be Japanese. Edited May 31, 2010 by daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 They're just examples of particular guitars with JV serials, not actual specs. Seemingly someone had the same idea as your guy in the ebay listing Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='Sibob' post='852553' date='May 31 2010, 01:05 PM']But all the Fender decaled JV's have a small Squier logo on them......[/quote] Here is an example of a JV series Fender - not a Squier [url="http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1982_Fender_JV_PB-95_Precision_Bass_3TS.html"]http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1982_Fender_JV...n_Bass_3TS.html[/url] I'm not into where they were made, if it was the same factory for both or if one was made somewhere and the other somewhere else or if they used the same parts or not but Fender JVs and Squier JVs are two separate things. A 'proper' Fender JV series bass does not have the Squier logo on it. The first Squiers had a large Fender logo and small Squier logo but confused many people who thought that they were Fenders - that is why they changed from that to 'Squier by Fender' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Yup thats a Fender Japan Domestic JV (and a very nice one at that!!) The Domestics are pretty rare out of Japan I think, seeing as they were non-export. They were probably the same factory I would have thought! Fair enough that my statement that all JV's = Squier was wrong! But I do believe that all Export JV's were Squier! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='gareth' post='852592' date='May 31 2010, 12:47 PM']some owners were embarrased about having a squier rather than a fender and sanded off the squier references[/quote] ...or put stickers over the Squier logo, left them on there for 20 years and are now stuck with impossible to remove residue on the headstock.... [attachment=51041:DSC02136.jpg] A word of advice: never lend a bass to a bloke who plays in a punk band [i]just for a little while[/i] and expect to get it back in decent condition years later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='Sibob' post='852676' date='May 31 2010, 02:56 PM']But I do believe that all Export JV's were Squier! Si[/quote] yes but there were higher end JV Squiers that were domestic only but I think they were mainly Strats and Teles. I'm glad that everything is straightforward in Squierland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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