tino Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Im sort of in a quandry.. .I need to sell a couple of my basses and It was my intention to keep this ol girl however I feel the lower price compared to my Ricky may lead to a better chance of a sale. This is a 1974 Ibanez through neck in really pretty amazing condition ,plays extremely well and I would not mind keeping this one in preference to the Ricky but 1 has to go,it has a TKL hardcase which is in very good nick. Like I say this bass plays extremely well and sounds very good indeed,there are no issues or faults and it has been very well cared for for over 35 years. Any trial welcomed Come take a look you will be pleasantly surprised Thanks for looking T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parker_muse Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I don't mean to be rude but is that not a bit steep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted May 29, 2010 Author Share Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='parker_muse' post='851437' date='May 29 2010, 08:37 PM']I don't mean to be rude but is that not a bit steep?[/quote] I saw one sell on ebay in Italy WITH a knackered truss rod for £650 so I think mine in this superb original condition is priced fairly,but it really is a subjective matter,If someone is interested and they take the trouble to come look they can try it against my Rickenbacker...........I hate to say this but it plays better,it sounds as good only in a different way,and its better weighted...I need to sell either this or the Ricky..Hand on heart I would prefer to let the Ricky go but I have little control over who buys which.In an ideal world I would be keeping both and my Gretsch (see pic)which I also have advertised........................................... Unfortunately life is not that fair at the moment.. And as for your being rude...You are not...you like I are entitled to your opinion.. Just a Thought what would a 74 Ricky in such good shape fetch????? Thanks T Whoops a 65 Jaguar slipped in Not for sale though Edited May 29, 2010 by tino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 [quote name='tino' post='851463' date='May 29 2010, 09:23 PM']I saw one sell on ebay in Italy WITH a knackered truss rod for £650 so I think mine in this superb original condition is priced fairly,but it really is a subjective matter,If someone is interested and they take the trouble to come look they can try it against my Rickenbacker...........I hate to say this but it plays better,it sounds as good only in a different way,and its better weighted...I need to sell either this or the Ricky..Hand on heart I would prefer to let the Ricky go but I have little control over who buys which.In an ideal world I would be keeping both and my Gretsch (see pic)which I also have advertised........................................... Unfortunately life is not that fair at the moment.. And as for your being rude...You are not...you like I are entitled to your opinion.. Just a Thought what would a 74 Ricky in such good shape fetch????? Thanks T Whoops a 65 Jaguar slipped in Not for sale though[/quote] loving the jag! sea green like the famous bass VI in spinal tap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 (edited) I had this model as a kid and, IMO, what lets these basses down are the pups whcich, as I think Bassassin has stated, were probably leftovers from Japcrap EB3 copies. I'd rip those right out and get Rick pups put in there. Obviously a bit of routing required on the rear but definitely would be a neccessary upgrade to what is already a fine piece of wood. Edited May 30, 2010 by Stacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 [quote name='Stacker' post='851623' date='May 30 2010, 09:11 AM']I had this model as a kid and, IMO, what lets these basses down are the pups whcich, as I think Bassassin has stated, were probably leftovers from Japcrap EB3 copies. I'd rip those right out and get Rick pups put in there. Obviously a bit of routing required on the rear but definitely would be a neccessary upgrade to what is already a fine piece of wood.[/quote] I not so certain that the neck pup is the original,but as I have never had it apart I cannot say .I have previously owned what I think was a Shaftesbury that had a similar looking pup and the sound quality was nowhere near as good as this,it could be from a Rivoli or similar I suppose......now Im thinking shall I pull her apart and take a gander. It does not show in the pics but this bass also has an original Ricky brdge/pup cover fitted Also a couple of pics of the Ricky & Gretsch I am looking to sell on Cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 That's a 1975 or earlier (unless you have the original receipt you cannot state "1974") Ibanez 2388B/DX, the pickups are original - and I would [u]strongly[/u] advise any buyer to leave it that way. These are sought-after & collectable vintage instruments, so non-reversible mods are to be avoided if you want it to retain value. On the subject, Parker_muse is right, £675 for this is very expensive, in the UK these typically fetch around £200 less than that on Ebay - which is, on the whole, a more expensive place to buy & sell than BC. The bass is missing some parts, which would limit its desirability to an Ibanez collector - the pickup cover, finger-rest, string mute and mute adjusters are all gone. Best of luck selling it Tino, but I think you're being a bit ambitious... Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Bassassin' post='851895' date='May 30 2010, 04:14 PM']That's a 1975 or earlier (unless you have the original receipt you cannot state "1974") Ibanez 2388B/DX, the pickups are original - and I would [u]strongly[/u] advise any buyer to leave it that way. These are sought-after & collectable vintage instruments, so non-reversible mods are to be avoided if you want it to retain value. On the subject, Parker_muse is right, £675 for this is very expensive, in the UK these typically fetch around £200 less than that on Ebay - which is, on the whole, a more expensive place to buy & sell than BC. The bass is missing some parts, which would limit its desirability to an Ibanez collector - the pickup cover, finger-rest, string mute and mute adjusters are all gone. Best of luck selling it Tino, but I think you're being a bit ambitious... Jon.[/quote] I thank you for you comments and understand your reasoning fully.I price it as I do because I paid £630,then another £35 for the pickup cover(its a ricky one)then I had it professionally set up...along with the Rickenbacker I have..... As I have already said I dont really wish to sell this one and Im hopeful that another of the members from this site will be taking the Ricky today,I currently need to move one to pay off for a new amp, I honestly prefer this one over the Ricky it plays smoother and sounds very nice indeed. With regards to those we see selling on ebay....invariably you see the same ones on their over and over again...usually they have truss rod and neck issues... Mine does not,and the condition for age is incredible. Also come with TKL hardcase these aint cheap either.... As for the string mute...I removed it but cant remember where I put it and to be honest I get better damping with a duster,finger rests are 2 a penny....all said and done anyone looking for a Ricky would be impressed with this ol girl and if so worried about the Ibanez name they could fool others with a ricky truss cover..Is anyone that anal..anyone wanting to try it out against the Ricky I have sat here will see precisely what I mean. Thanks T Edited May 31, 2010 by tino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznbass Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Thats really, realllyyy nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='aznbass' post='852338' date='May 31 2010, 08:28 AM']Thats really, realllyyy nice![/quote] Thanks T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Tino - I think I've seen you over on the Ibanez Collectors forum haven't I? Wasn't it you that had the very nice CSL LP copy with set neck & vines? Anyway, I'm no particular collector geek (all my old JapCrap basses are players) but if you've been around those sites, you know as well as I do that non-original replacement thumbrests, pickup covers (a Ricky one won't fit this bass!) and missing original parts make a big difference as far as getting a premium price for a vintage Ibby is concerned. It's a beautiful bass, but as for fooling anyone, or impressing Rickenbacker fans - have a look at the comments on Rickresource.com about "Rickenfakers" - they'd spot this from 120 miles away & burn it with relish! Seriously, the early 2388B/DX like yours is the single most inaccurate Rick copy to come out of a Japanese factory. Don't get me wrong, I love them and would be all over one if a bargain came up - but you have to be realistic about what this is, and what you can reasonably expect to get for it - particularly on a bass-savvy place like this! I've been watching Rick copies on Ebay for about 6 years or so (OK, I'm sad - these basses are something of an obsession for me!) and the most expensive sale I've ever seen was an El Maya 4001S (unbound body, dot inlays & very, very very rare) which sold for £656 at the end of 2008 to someone in Sweden, who was likely taking advantage of exchange rate antics. That's commemorated [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtopic=270&view=findpost&p=366625"]here[/url] in the Rickenfakers sticky thread, which is now 60 pages and 3 years worth of Faker sightings, discussions & analysis, and is, I dare say, fairly comprehensive! Anyway best of luck with both of your sales - the AFG Rick is a stunner and that's a pretty good price in the current market, and realistically it would be easier to replace than your Ibanez! Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='Bassassin' post='852503' date='May 31 2010, 12:10 PM']Tino - I think I've seen you over on the Ibanez Collectors forum haven't I? Wasn't it you that had the very nice CSL LP copy with set neck & vines? Anyway, I'm no particular collector geek (all my old JapCrap basses are players) but if you've been around those sites, you know as well as I do that non-original replacement thumbrests, pickup covers (a Ricky one won't fit this bass!) and missing original parts make a big difference as far as getting a premium price for a vintage Ibby is concerned. It's a beautiful bass, but as for fooling anyone, or impressing Rickenbacker fans - have a look at the comments on Rickresource.com about "Rickenfakers" - they'd spot this from 120 miles away & burn it with relish! Seriously, the early 2388B/DX like yours is the single most inaccurate Rick copy to come out of a Japanese factory. Don't get me wrong, I love them and would be all over one if a bargain came up - but you have to be realistic about what this is, and what you can reasonably expect to get for it - particularly on a bass-savvy place like this! I've been watching Rick copies on Ebay for about 6 years or so (OK, I'm sad - these basses are something of an obsession for me!) and the most expensive sale I've ever seen was an El Maya 4001S (unbound body, dot inlays & very, very very rare) which sold for £656 at the end of 2008 to someone in Sweden, who was likely taking advantage of exchange rate antics. That's commemorated [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtopic=270&view=findpost&p=366625"]here[/url] in the Rickenfakers sticky thread, which is now 60 pages and 3 years worth of Faker sightings, discussions & analysis, and is, I dare say, fairly comprehensive! Anyway best of luck with both of your sales - the AFG Rick is a stunner and that's a pretty good price in the current market, and realistically it would be easier to replace than your Ibanez! Jon.[/quote] Hi Jon Yep that was my CSL.......its giving my age away now...back then it was all we could afford however that one was a bit special. Like I have said I really honestly & truthfully would rather keep this old girl.It plays as well as the Ricky then some,I have no intention of losing her lightly.I do have another 70.s 2388B-NT but its not to the standard of this one however if this one should sell I would spend the time and money getting it there in the future. Did you not see the Ibanez that sold in Italy on the bay with warped neck & the Uk one that went to the States both made more than this. I also have the ElMaya and if I can find a decent PUP I will be putting that up for sale,however I would argue they are totally unbalaced in comparison to this Ibby. What I do know is someone out there will be looking to buy a Faker and Parting with like £500,it will come in a crap gig bag and the setup will be awful. Im not saying to anyone take it at face value or to how I describe it if you want a nice bass that really will not lose money as time progresses and that plays wonderfully....come take a look. And as I have said I appreciate your comments and do not wish to argue against them I will however close in stating this genuinely is streets ahead of the majority of Fakers that I have had or played,you know yourself you can try out 20 Fender P,s before you come across one that stands out from the crowd.. Whoops nearly forgot the ricky cover fits perfectly Anyway I think this is now done to death so best probably to put it to the Bay etc if the Ricky does not go... Anyone for a 1955 Gibson A40 Mandolin Regards T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos3h Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Hi, Just a suggestion, but what I would recommend doing is getting this to a shop that will sell it for you on commission. I'm of the opinion that it does look a bit overpriced 'on paper', but of course we can't assess how well it plays and sounds from the ad here alone. If you can get it hanging on the wall of a decent shop that won't stiff you on commission, then you know that if someone comes in and plays it, it'll fetch what you what (or near, factoring in the shop percentage). Just trying to help, but it could be the way forward for you if you wanted to sell? Cheers, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 [quote name='Moos3h' post='852577' date='May 31 2010, 01:32 PM']Hi, Just a suggestion, but what I would recommend doing is getting this to a shop that will sell it for you on commission. I'm of the opinion that it does look a bit overpriced 'on paper', but of course we can't assess how well it plays and sounds from the ad here alone. If you can get it hanging on the wall of a decent shop that won't stiff you on commission, then you know that if someone comes in and plays it, it'll fetch what you what (or near, factoring in the shop percentage). Just trying to help, but it could be the way forward for you if you wanted to sell? Cheers, James[/quote] I was contacted by a certain dealer yesterday evening offering just such a deal on all the instruments I currently wish to sell,however in the past I have had experiences that tell me not too. If they sell they sell.I am not really fussed about it one way or the other. I will use Gumtree & preloved first at least someone gets the chance at a better price,I never could understand why anyone is happy to pay the inflated price over buying private...it is 36 years old and comes with no garuntee whether from me or the dealer in his shop!!! As for the way it plays anyone is more than welcome to come try it.....I make lovely lager T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roystonarthur Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 good looking jag - how much ? royston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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