witterth Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 [quote name='neilb' post='853914' date='Jun 1 2010, 06:19 PM']OMG...it was you!!!!! I didnt actually say your sound was sh*te, to be fair![/quote] want a fight? by the way dont get me started on John Entwistle (whispers: God! he sounds like crap whereas I am completey GREAT!! everyone listen to ME!! cos.........etc etc etc...) and so on..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tino Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 [quote name='witterth' post='853673' date='Jun 1 2010, 03:31 PM']Yeah, fair enough Nigel,Ive "got on one" here havent I? and for that I should say sorry too! Ive got too much time on my hands, but its for one week only That bastar#d did kill my gerbil though, how did you know about that? all the best back at ya! John love the mini "kwim" thread in this !! [/quote] You Just Come ON????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) I think at the end of the day you just have to accept that in popular music there'll always be some herbert in the crowd who thinks he knows better. If you were in a classical or jazz situation there would be nothing but admiration for your playing, but in the context of a pub gig or a jam session, due to the popularisation & de-formalisation of the instrument, every Tom, Dick & Harry thinks he knows best, or at least better than you. The best thing to do in these situations is really know your stuff & play to the best of your ability at all times. You don't prove you're a good player with words. You prove it via your musical ability. Yes, I get the odd herbert coming up occasionally (he knows who he is!) and constantly [u]tells[/u] me I need to use mids and a pick (neither of which I shall ever use!) Well, my simple answer to him is in the form of a question... "How much money have you made from bass playing this year, then?" But that's just me being a git Usually I'll just smile knowingly and make polite conversation. There's no need for an argument, no need to blank people. Just be nice and prove them wrong musically. Now that's style Edited June 1, 2010 by OutToPlayJazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 [quote name='witterth' post='853564' date='Jun 1 2010, 01:52 PM']who said the drummer was a friend? why should he defend me? (BTW)[/quote] Why shouldn't he defend you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witterth Posted June 1, 2010 Author Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' post='853951' date='Jun 1 2010, 06:47 PM']Why shouldn't he defend you?[/quote] We wernt "mates" ET, just work colleagues, so as I say, why should he defend me? if you see what I mean? This guy was the "herbert" OTPJ talks about I suppose. I do try, where possible to keep things "out " of work as far too often bands turn into "fight club" and thats no good for anyone. or even,worse case senario "brokeback mountain!!!" eh? quim? Edited June 1, 2010 by witterth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 [quote name='witterth' post='853985' date='Jun 1 2010, 07:18 PM']We wernt "mates" ET, just work colleagues, so as I say, why should he defend me? if you see what I mean? This guy was the "herbert" OTPJ talks about I suppose. I do try, where possible to keep things "out " of work as far too often bands turn into "fight club" and thats no good for anyone. or even,worse case senario "brokeback mountain!!!" eh? quim? [/quote] Ok, I know these things differ from one band to another but a band is a team and I would defend the rest of my team and expect them to defend me in public - and then, in private, tell me to my face what they thought I was doing wrong. If one of my team started telling me what some punter thought (friend of theirs or not) I'd be saying, 'Hang on, never mind the punter, what do you think?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witterth Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 [quote name='EssentialTension' post='854325' date='Jun 1 2010, 11:35 PM']Ok, I know these things differ from one band to another but a band is a team and I would defend the rest of my team and expect them to defend me in public - and then, in private, tell me to my face what they thought I was doing wrong. If one of my team started telling me what some punter thought (friend of theirs or not) I'd be saying, 'Hang on, never mind the punter, what do you think?'[/quote] Oh,I see where your coming from. In this case there was/still is a "team" ethos, and in fairness to the Drummer in question he was more "into" carrying round big gear and the resultant "tone" etc than I ever could have been (a real "gear" head if you know what I mean) at the end of the day Ive no real doubt this guy(drummer) did his best to "defend" me,as if I needed it. thats the type of guy he is. to be honest he is a friend truth to tell, it just didnt fit my standpoint to simply say: "punter slagged me of and mate/drummer didnt do enough to stop it" cos that aint the case, because he did. but I was saying why should he? ....telling me about it was just being honesty really! not some macheovellian scheme. Ill repeat, the slagging I got was quite intense it was imparted with honesty cos thats the type of guy this drummer is... quite a nice chap!! I know contradict myself in some ways..but..... I really shouldnt have started this should I? the "punter was just after my gig, I think, (which he'd never get! Ha Ha! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 [quote name='witterth' post='854386' date='Jun 2 2010, 01:22 AM']Oh,I see where your coming from. In this case there was/still is a "team" ethos, and in fairness to the Drummer in question he was more "into" carrying round big gear and the resultant "tone" etc than I ever could have been (a real "gear" head if you know what I mean) at the end of the day Ive no real doubt this guy(drummer) did his best to "defend" me,as if I needed it. thats the type of guy he is. to be honest he is a friend truth to tell, it just didnt fit my standpoint to simply say: "punter slagged me of and mate/drummer didnt do enough to stop it" cos that aint the case, because he did. but I was saying why should he? ....telling me about it was just being honesty really! not some macheovellian scheme. Ill repeat, the slagging I got was quite intense it was imparted with honesty cos thats the type of guy this drummer is... quite a nice chap!! I know contradict myself in some ways..but..... I really shouldnt have started this should I? the "punter was just after my gig, I think, (which he'd never get! Ha Ha! )[/quote] OK, that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witterth Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 [quote name='EssentialTension' post='854390' date='Jun 2 2010, 01:31 AM']OK, that makes sense. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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