Bilbo Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I was listening to a Mingus download this morning and got to thinking how many degrees of separation woudl take us from me to the great man himself. The quickest route I could find was: Me Stan Sultzman (did a gig with him in Jagz in Ascot once) Dave Holland (played on Kenny Wheeler's 'Flutterby Butterfly' with Stan Sultzman John Scofield (played with Holland in the jazz 'supergroup' ScoLoHoFo) Charles Mingus (Scofield played on the bass players LP 'Three or Four Shades of Blue' Or Me Nigel Cyril (a drummer from Newport in Monmouthsire) Courtney Pine (Nigel played with the saxophonist once) Branford Marsalis (Pine played on Branford's 'The Beautyful Ones Are Not Yet Born' Herbie Hancock (played on Marsalis' Renaissance LP) Miles Davis (featured Hancock in his second great Quintet) Charles Mingus (played with Davis on several recordings in the late 1940s/early 1950s How quick can you get there...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Using [url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=prefab+sprout&end=charles+mingus"]this site that cropped up here recently[/url], I can go: Me Martin McAloon (bass player in Prefab Sprout, and lecturer when I was at college) Tony Visconti (produced Prefab Sprout and...) David Bowie Angelo Badalamenti (performed on the Bowie track "A Foggy Day in London Town", and wrote "Sycamore Trees", played by...) Ron Carter Charles Mingus (Carter played on "The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jive Ass Slippers") I take much of that on trust, and there's probably a quicker route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) 1. I was taught bass by Steve berry 2. Who was taught by Dave Holland 3. Who played with Miles Davis 4. Who played with Mingus... Edited June 3, 2010 by derrenleepoole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Ha! Stop press! I've sung with Lesley Garrett a few times, and she [url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=lesley+garrett&end=charles+mingus"]links to Mingus in 3 steps[/url]! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='855960' date='Jun 3 2010, 12:14 PM']Ha! Stop press! I've sung with Lesley Garrett a few times, and she [url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=lesley+garrett&end=charles+mingus"]links to Mingus in 3 steps[/url]![/quote] That still makes you 4 steps like me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='855965' date='Jun 3 2010, 12:16 PM']That still makes you 4 steps like me [/quote] We can all revel in our sameness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 Actually, I interviewed Ron Carter for my Paul Chambers biography and he played with Mingus on "The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jive Ass Slippers" My God. I did it in 2!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 [quote name='Bilbo' post='855974' date='Jun 3 2010, 12:22 PM']Actually, I interviewed Ron Carter for my Paul Chambers biography and he played with Mingus on "The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jive Ass Slippers" My God. I did it in 2!![/quote] Nice one! 'Shoes' album was my induction into Mingus and jazz in general and remains one of my favourites! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 [url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=steps&end=charles+mingus"]Steps > Mingus in 7[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I know somebody with a Charles Mingus album - does that count as one step? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) I played with Tony Chapman and/or Carlo Little (pre Charlie Watts drummers with the Rolling Stones), who played with Keith Richard, who played with Chuck Berry, who played with Dizzy Gillespie (at one of the early Newport Festivals), who played with Mingus. That's five! Edit: Tony Chapman Edited June 3, 2010 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) I can do it in 4, using only "played with" as a link 1) Back in the late 1970s/early 80s I played in a "free jazz collective" with [b]Hugh Metcalfe [/b] (guitarist) 2) Hugh Metcalfe has played a lot with [b]Tony Oxley [/b](drummer) 3) Tony Oxley has played with [b]Bill Evans[/b] 4) Bill Evans has played with [b]Charles Mingus[/b] Edited June 3, 2010 by Earbrass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 A tenuous 6, from an abortive jam/drinking session with former members of Prince's band in Rome a few years back. Probably doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I am Charles Mingus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 No, [i]I'm[/i] Charles Mingus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Bassman Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 [quote name='99ster' post='855979' date='Jun 3 2010, 12:26 PM'][url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=steps&end=charles+mingus"]Steps > Mingus in 7[/url] [/quote] Me too, starting with Jon Hiseman whom I met on a couple of occasions.....a bit tenuous but hey here it is [url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=jon+hiseman&end=charles+mingus"]http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start...=charles+mingus[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='856421' date='Jun 3 2010, 06:57 PM']No, [i]I'm[/i] Charles Mingus.[/quote] No... I'm Charles Mingus.... and so is my wife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I can only manage Seven Me >> Dave Briggs (local guitarist of note) >> Scotty Moore & then [url="http://labs.echonest.com/SixDegrees/?start=scotty+moore&end=charles+mingus"]as per this link.[/url] However... I can do Me, Dave Briggs - who's played with, Scotty Moore - who played with... Elvis! Me to The King in 4! 'Owsaboutthatthen! Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 In the sixties I regularly played bass with pianist Dave Price. When Bill Evans was in UK he wrote to Dave and sent him the chords for Waltz for Debby, handwritten on a piece of Foolscap (twas the seventies!). Bill Evans played with Mingus. Does all that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaver Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Weirdly easier than I imagined Me Graham Gouldman (played through his backline) Lol Creme (in 10cc with Gouldman) Sarah Vaughan (sang with Godley and Creme on Consequences) Charlie Parker (Vaughan sang with him) Charlie Mingus (played with Parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 1. Clarky 2. (Before Mrs C) went out with some right mingus 3. Charlie Mingus Voila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) More seriously, I have a good one (this will impress you Bilbo): 1. Clarky once had DB lessons from London jazzer Phil Bates* 2. Phil Bates used to be Stephane Grapelli's DB player in the 70s 3. Stephane Grapelli played alongside guitarist Philip Catherine in the late 70s 4. Philip Catherine was nicknamed 'young Django' by Charlie Mingus * RIP, lovely old dude, died a couple of years ago, used to be Tubby Hayes' DB player in the 60s Edited June 3, 2010 by Clarky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Right then...my turn 1- I've have lessons with Janek Gwizdala 2- Janek plays with Mike Stern 3-Mike Stern played with Miles Davis 4-Miles Davis played on Charles Mingus' early dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 [quote name='Doddy' post='856777' date='Jun 4 2010, 01:46 AM']Right then...my turn 1- I've have lessons with Janek Gwizdala 2- Janek plays with Mike Stern 3-Mike Stern played with Miles Davis 4-Miles Davis played on Charles Mingus' early dates.[/quote] Substitute #1 with "I've heard of Janek Gwizdala on this forum". Actually substitute all of them with "I've heard some of Charles Mingus' records". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I might be able to do better than I thought. I took lessons with jazz guitarist John Whyte for about 6 months He played with jazz trumpeter Jimmy Deuchar in the 1980s Jimmy Deuchar toured with Lionel Hampton in 1956 Lionel Hampton played with Charles Mingus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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