notable9 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) Im in the running for a small light powerful cab, but only have up to 400 pounds to spend. The Bergie and Epiphani stuff looks good and just within budget. Does anyone know which set up will give the best low end, and projection. Thks to all Note. Edited November 30, 2007 by notable9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBod Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 The same format from different makers can give very different results, I'm afraid. I've heard 2x10's that were thin and edgy, and some that were thick and muddy....sorry! I'd suggest a secondhand Euphonic Audio CXL112 as the best all rounder I've used, and the more recent Wizzy's are cheaper and lighter (and 4 ohm?) BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha-Dave Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I much prefer 2*10 cabs that are stacked vertically, due to the smaller footprint but higher top. The sound of the cabs will vary massively from one manufacturer to another though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 The Bergy 210 and 112s both have plenty of low end, the 112s probably project the low end the farthest (judging by the reaction of people at music live when we ran them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 My vote would go to a quality 2x10! There may well be a 1x12 out there that can beat 2x10 as a stand-alone cab but I've yet to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 My advice is to try them side by side as they have slightly different characteristics tonally - PM me if you want to do a shoot out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_JimBob Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm looking for some Markbass cabs to match my head, and was able to get my hands on a 2x10 and 1x12 to try. Oriented horizontally (standard) the 1x12 just pipped the 2x10 to the post with a tighter bottom end and a better all-round character. However (echoing Alpha-Dave's statement), once the 2x10 was turned on its side, a whole different sound appeared - tighter, more focused - a true full-range, punchier sound. Needless to say, the 1x12 was a contender no more. And i've been using 1x15s and 1x12s for 12 years now, and never EVER thought i'd look at a 2x10 [i]that[/i] way.... ( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Two tens vertically aligned offer wider horizontal and narrower vertical dispersion than one twelve. BTW, since the obverse is also the case drivers should never be horizontally aligned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIM Basses Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Have a look at the Dr bass Cabs, the 1260 cab could be good for you! Cheers, Robbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notable9 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 RM, Where can U gate Dr Bass in the UK? Note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I reckon Robbie is your man for DrAmp - see his sig above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Looking good Robbie. The exchange rate is gonna make those Dr Bass cabs very attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottswarwick Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 [quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='97074' date='Dec 1 2007, 02:15 AM']Two tens vertically aligned offer wider horizontal and narrower vertical dispersion than one twelve. BTW, since the obverse is also the case drivers should never be horizontally aligned.[/quote] Interesting. Why do so many off the shelf cabs have them horizontally aligned? Coet cutting? I certainly favour my MB Trav 2*10 vertically, so this must be why.. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 [quote name='nottswarwick' post='97160' date='Dec 1 2007, 06:42 AM']Interesting. Why do so many off the shelf cabs have them horizontally aligned?[/quote] They look better that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notable9 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 RM, Do U have a price list for the Dr bass cabs. Note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 [quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='97254' date='Dec 1 2007, 03:52 PM']They look better that way. [/quote] Also, they're more stable (having a lower centre of gravity). This , in turn, avoids lawsuits from crushed players who pulled their stacks over! Not all heads (although they're getting smaller of late) will stand atop a vertically-oriented 2x10 or 2x12, as the top surface area is too small. Whilst plonking your head on a vibrating enclosure is hardly good for it from an acoustic feedback point of view, it's still where most of us deposit our amps for practicality's sake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 [quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='98209' date='Dec 3 2007, 04:52 PM']Also, they're more stable (having a lower centre of gravity). This , in turn, avoids lawsuits from crushed players who pulled their stacks over! Not all heads (although they're getting smaller of late) will stand atop a vertically-oriented 2x10 or 2x12, as the top surface area is too small. Whilst plonking your head on a vibrating enclosure is hardly good for it from an acoustic feedback point of view, it's still where most of us deposit our amps for practicality's sake...[/quote] Very good point - unless you have a small amp it would be difficult to balance it on top of the sideways speaker. It is only convention and ease that we place our amps on top of cabs. There is no reason or benefit other than that as far as I know. There is nothing to stop you putting your amp on a stand or flightcases etc if that is easier or more practical, eg if you use a small/low speaker or space does not allow. Any one else not put their amp on top of their cab? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I put a 4U rack on top of a vertical 2x10" and it is completely stable. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsymoth Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 space in my studio keeps me from putting amps somewhere else completely, but I put them on the cabs they are not plugged into. maybe I'm paranoid, maybe I'm microphonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwbassman Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) A few months ago I went through the very same thought process and FWIW I'm now currently using an Epifani UL112 which I accquired from this very forum - it is excellent, lighweight, solid and only last night night I was complimented on the bottom end that i was getting from it. I think it sounds great but I've not had the opportunity to directly compare it to a 2x10. EDIT - previously I was using an EA iAmp 200 combo with a wizzy 112 - that too served me very well for a number of years Edited December 3, 2007 by jwbassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) Keyboard stand [attachment=3921:DSCN0457.JPG] Edited December 3, 2007 by bass_ferret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 [quote name='bass_ferret' post='98364' date='Dec 3 2007, 08:49 PM']Keyboard stand [attachment=3921:DSCN0457.JPG][/quote] Nice - now that's what i'm talking about! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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