alexclaber Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I think this could go down rather well with a very specific niche of bass players - reggae, rocksteady, ska and dub bassists. These sounds have always been close to my heart and were one of the key drivers in designing the original Barefaced model, the Big One. However if you're a dedicated dubstyle player you don't need the extra top of the Big One and you probably don't have a massive amp to drive it, and you're not going to be going below low B and many of you won't be going below low E. So what we have in the works is a reasonably compact 2x15" (same width and depth as the Big One but about 6" taller) which is tuned for maximum fatness in the lows and can handle absolutely tons of power but doesn't need much power to get loud. It won't go above about 1.5kHz but that doesn't matter if you're dedicated to the cause of riddim. In the region where it matters it has similar sensitivity to an Ampeg 8x10" but it can handle ten times the power before farting out (the voice coils will be thorougly melted if you put that much in for more than a short burst but you get the point). The 4 ohm load and doubled cone area makes it much easier to drive than the Big One (~6dB greater voltage sensitivity) whilst the rolled off highs make amp clipping much less obvious so you can get away with even less power because you won't hear bad noises when you run out of juice. If you currently use two top quality 4x10"s pushed with 600W (the max the best neo ones can handle before compressing/distorting in the lows) then one Dubster will match that SPL with 1100W. If you currently use two typical 1x15"s or a typical 2x15" the Dubster will be equally loud and fat with the same power but will handle ~four times as much power and thus go as loud as four conventional (but high quality) 15"s. However most reggae bassists will get plenty of output with a ~500W amp, even one of those tiny micro-amps. If you like HUGE deep sounds but are sick of moving a huge rig, then this is the solution. Should weigh under 50lbs, will handle 900W all day long, LF peaks up to 2800W. Peak SPL of ~135dB @ 100Hz, can continuously sustain about 130dB. Price-wise, about the same as the Vintage. NB: No treble at all. But lots of BASS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Interesting. Could make for an awesome miced up bass drum reinforcement too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='EBS_freak' post='893590' date='Jul 13 2010, 11:59 AM']Interesting. Could make for an awesome miced up bass drum reinforcement too...[/quote] Could be dangerously awesome! Between that and guitars through some Mesa Dual Rectifiers the bassist would be relegated to the Jason Newsted on 'And Justice For All' position of might as well have stayed at home... Edited July 13, 2010 by alexclaber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 This is a 2x15 big sub roughly then? Pair up nicely with a high passed driven guitar rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='893696' date='Jul 13 2010, 01:38 PM']This is a 2x15 big sub roughly then?[/quote] Not really. Different alignment and design goals. [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='893696' date='Jul 13 2010, 01:38 PM']Pair up nicely with a high passed driven guitar rig?[/quote] Yes, I suspect it would. That's another niche then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShergoldSnickers Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Issue a warning to seismologists. And don't export any to Iceland, we don't want any more volcanoes upsetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 [quote name='alexclaber' post='893784' date='Jul 13 2010, 02:53 PM']Not really. Different alignment and design goals. Yes, I suspect it would. That's another niche then![/quote] Hmm, when are these due? Someone is interested in my GS412 which this could potentially replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Could be interesting paired with my Vintage/T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 [quote name='alexclaber' post='893552' date='Jul 13 2010, 11:25 AM']you're not going to be going below low B and many of you won't be going below low E.[/quote] Is this part saying its not for ridiculous sub detuning contrabass action, more of a really beefy in the lows you hear for sensitivity purposes? The Big one/sub is still the one for mad low end, but will need the juice? Would this be totally awesome with my big valve Matamp Slave, which I am fairly sure was made to power an oldschool dub rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='894328' date='Jul 14 2010, 12:52 AM']Is this part saying its not for ridiculous sub detuning contrabass action, more of a really beefy in the lows you hear for sensitivity purposes? The Big one/sub is still the one for mad low end, but will need the juice? Would this be totally awesome with my big valve Matamp Slave, which I am fairly sure was made to power an oldschool dub rig?[/quote] Yes, kind of, probably! It'll handle super-detuned tone just fine, just as an 8x10" will, but it won't reproduce the lowest content as accurately as something designed explicitly to go lower. But if you're in a LOUD context and looking to run dirty+clean rigs or similar then a higher sensitivity cab that produces more bass in general at the expense of deep bass extension makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Bonkers idea mate, love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 [quote name='alexclaber' post='894479' date='Jul 14 2010, 10:13 AM']Yes, kind of, probably! It'll handle super-detuned tone just fine, just as an 8x10" will, but it won't reproduce the lowest content as accurately as something designed explicitly to go lower. But if you're in a LOUD context and looking to run dirty+clean rigs or similar then a higher sensitivity cab that produces more bass in general at the expense of deep bass extension makes more sense.[/quote] I've always found 8x10s to be rubbish, pretty much blame them for the clanky rubbish metal tone that is so prevalent. Comparative lows to Aguilar GS412? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='894616' date='Jul 14 2010, 12:41 PM']I've always found 8x10s to be rubbish, pretty much blame them for the clanky rubbish metal tone that is so prevalent. Comparative lows to Aguilar GS412?[/quote] Same ballpark in terms of the sensitivity and roll off, though the GS412 should have the slight edge on one front or the other because it's bigger. Max LF SPL of the Dubster will be usefully higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Timeline on the ultimate reggae bass cab is looking to be about 6 weeks. Just need to finish the CAD drawings for production. Exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 This just [i]might[/i] be what my SD1200 is crying out for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raslee Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Any news on this cab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.i.stein Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) ..what Rasta said. ??? Edited January 22, 2011 by phil.i.stein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raslee Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah i'm really looking forward to this...i've been waiting for a decent reggae cab to come along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Yes, I'm looking forward to it too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Since these are just lows, totally happy on their sides? I'm picturing a 2x15 type box, on its side, 4x12 guitar cab on top, Matamp slave powering it, drivey guitar amp for the top. I want the directional top so I can control feedback by moving about. Can you make them in green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raslee Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 [quote name='alexclaber' post='1105207' date='Jan 27 2011, 04:15 PM']Yes, I'm looking forward to it too! [/quote] Any news on a release date....ish ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 This is front runner on the new bit of nice gear race. Anyone got one yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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