Hoffmann Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Hey guys!! I just created my own bass blog on how to groove. It gathers ways of grooving from different forums, bass players (such as Stuart Zender from early Jamiroquai albums) and my personnal stuffs! I hope it can help some of you people out there!! [url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com"]Groove Secrets Blog[/url] Of course, any comment (good or bad) would be much appreciated!! And if you feel like sharing some groove ideas, please feel free to post them here (althought I'll a have a regular look at your grooves in the forum itself!) Cheers!! Btw, I am new here! Hello everyone!! Quote
algmusic Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 I like the fact that you've started with just playing simple things. I did a gig with Winston blissett (I was on drums). What got me thinking about my own bass playing was how he played the simple things so bloody well.. after that I re-learnt every song I've played and just tried to play less, but make that feel great.. that's groove I starting doing the same on drums Quote
Fat Rich Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Welcome to Basschat! Just looking at your blog now, looks good so far. Will follow with interest! Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 15, 2010 Author Posted July 15, 2010 Cheers guys! @algmusic: yeah I noticed as well that the simple it is, the better it grooves so... Quote
Spoombung Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 [quote name='Hoffmann' post='895446' date='Jul 15 2010, 11:03 AM'][url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com"]Groove Secrets Blog[/url][/quote] So that's how you do it... Quote
JTUK Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 I don't know........... there may be little pointers, but some guys just have IT...and some couldn't get it in a million years. Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 15, 2010 Author Posted July 15, 2010 Sorry guys I did not get you, what do you mean? Quote
skankdelvar Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) IMO that's a pretty useful blog for beginning groovers and contains some handy reminders for the more 'exuberant' experts. Anything that might reduce the amount of contextually unneccessary overplaying is good for a Nobel Prize. Personally, I'd try to get the 'articles' to read chronologically top to bottom. Reading these things in reverse order can be a bit confusing for old men like me. Either way, nice effort (good comic / newspaper analogy) and ta for posting the link to it. Edited July 15, 2010 by skankdelvar Quote
Spoombung Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 I prefer contextually necessary undergrooving with a hint of minimal UN-sanctioned plod Quote
SteveK Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 Oh, [b]GROOVE![/b] I thought it said,[b] GROVEL![/b] Sorry, can't help then... While I'm here... Hoffmann, It looks pretty good. Well done. I'll take a closer look later. Quote
skankdelvar Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 [quote name='Spoombung' post='895802' date='Jul 15 2010, 05:23 PM']I prefer contextually necessary undergrooving with a hint of minimal UN-sanctioned plod[/quote] That could be me you're describing, my dear 'Bung. I like plod almost as much as I like groove. M'mmmmm, the mouthwatering flavour of full-fat, creamy plod. Now available in Classic Original [i]and[/i] All-New Cheese and Chive flavour. Quote
Spoombung Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 [quote name='skankdelvar' post='895982' date='Jul 15 2010, 09:06 PM']That could be me you're describing, my dear 'Bung. I like plod almost as much as I like groove. M'mmmmm, the mouthwatering flavour of full-fat, creamy plod. Now available in Classic Original [i]and[/i] All-New Cheese and Chive flavour.[/quote] Indeed. I think we should make a concerted effort here on Basschat to extoll the virtues of [i]plod[/i] and it associated flat-footed, inarticulate 'IT'-less sub-genres. Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 17, 2010 Author Posted July 17, 2010 Thanks guys! ^_^ I hope it is going to help some people out there! If you have some hints or tips on groove, please share them here! it would be nice to have everybody's thoughts on groove! Quote
gjones Posted July 17, 2010 Posted July 17, 2010 [quote name='algmusic' post='895455' date='Jul 15 2010, 11:15 AM']I like the fact that you've started with just playing simple things. I did a gig with Winston blissett (I was on drums). What got me thinking about my own bass playing was how he played the simple things so bloody well.. after that I re-learnt every song I've played and just tried to play less, but make that feel great.. that's groove I starting doing the same on drums[/quote] +1 'LESS' is 'MORE'.............but usually you figure that out after overplaying on stuff for years until you eventually get it (of course some people never do). Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 18, 2010 Author Posted July 18, 2010 [quote name='gjones' post='897279' date='Jul 17 2010, 02:56 PM']'LESS' is 'MORE'.............but usually you figure that out after overplaying on stuff for years until you eventually get it (of course some people never do).[/quote] Yeah I guess it happens to a loooot of people!! (I used to overplay, with a sound almost free of bass frecuencies... the worst for a bass player in a band! ^^) Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 20, 2010 Author Posted July 20, 2010 and here we go for [url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/groove-secret-5-the-ghost-note/"]an article on ghost notes[/url]!! I hope it's gonna help some people here! and of course feel free to post your own tips on groove so that everybody can learn from it! Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 22, 2010 Author Posted July 22, 2010 [url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/groove-secret-6-what-scales-should-you-focus-on/"]article on which scale(s) one should use to grooove!![/url] hope it's of some use!! Quote
mart Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Hoffmann' post='901744' date='Jul 22 2010, 11:28 AM'][url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/groove-secret-6-what-scales-should-you-focus-on/"]article on which scale(s) one should use to grooove!![/url] hope it's of some use!![/quote] That's great stuff Hoffmann, thanks. I wonder if you can shed some light on a track I love. It's "Somewhere in Between" by Kate Bush, and the bassist is Pino Palladino. Most of the time he's playing incredibly simple lines, but there is a feeling to it that I just cannot capture. Any tips? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HiDZ1MqWo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HiDZ1MqWo[/url] Actually the whole album has a lot of beautiful bass playing on it, but I think this track has the highest ratio of quality to number of notes played! Edited July 22, 2010 by mart Quote
steve-soar Posted July 22, 2010 Posted July 22, 2010 [quote name='Spoombung' post='895802' date='Jul 15 2010, 05:23 PM']I prefer contextually necessary undergrooving with a hint of minimal UN-sanctioned plod[/quote]Unfortuanately, I nailled my groove to the floor back in 1994 and have been unable to move it since. Government guidelines suggest the recommended daily intake of Groove is no more than 12.5%, or 1/8th if you will. Feel is 25%, taste has a R.D.A. of 10% and influences vary from 30% to a staggering level, 42% in some cases. The other remaining 10.5-22.5% of a modern bass players breakfast, comes from a mixture of PLOD and "what was that I just played?". Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 22, 2010 Author Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) thanks Mart! I've had a look at Somewhere in Between and I think I am going to write my next article on this! IMHO, I think it is what Victor Wooten says about breathing along a bass line: you do not breath really fast or in a staccato way when you want to express something cool for example. Wooten says one has to breath along his/her bassline and I think it really helps. Something I found really interesting was when I tried to compose a song for my girlfriend - I first started breathing like if I was with her and very excited. With this breathing pattern I made a bass line and then composed a song (that I think looks like a love/sexy song ) It is on [url="http://www.myspace.com/remikerhoas"]my myspace page[/url] if you want to listen to it, it is called "rainy paris". Anyway, I'll write an article on this later! Edited July 22, 2010 by Hoffmann Quote
Hoffmann Posted July 26, 2010 Author Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Next article! Working on a [url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com/2010/07/26/groove-secret-7-the-root-octave-pattern-disco-funk-riff/"]root octave pattern[/url]! That's what I call Foooonky!! Please, feel free to give feedback, critic, anything really! Edited July 26, 2010 by Hoffmann Quote
Hoffmann Posted August 3, 2010 Author Posted August 3, 2010 [url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/groove-secret-7-breath-along-your-bass-line-victor-wootens-idea/"]New article!![/url] Weird concept though... It is about breathing with your bass line! It is from Victor Wooten's ideas! Enjoy!! Quote
iconic Posted August 4, 2010 Posted August 4, 2010 this is great stuff, many thanks for the taking the time out to do this Quote
Hoffmann Posted August 5, 2010 Author Posted August 5, 2010 Thanks a lot mate!! It is always nice to feel that your work is appreciated!! ^_^ Next article should come soon... Quote
Hoffmann Posted August 8, 2010 Author Posted August 8, 2010 [url="http://groovesecrets.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/being-a%C2%A0bassist/"]New article uploaded![/url] It is a pretty special one since it is a (quite big) quote from a professional bass player! He basically talks about which state of minds a bass player should be while playing music... very interesting! ^_^ Quote
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