Smash Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Just realised some of my gear this past year has been going out the door way under what I normally would let things go for take a look below: Genz Benz 6.0 amp for £280 then had to pay fees USA Jazz Bass for £420 then pay fees Aguilar GS112 £145 Mexican Jazz Bass £180 then pay fees Then I have lost count on effects pedals selling them for way under the usual prices I just cannot sell anything at last years prices, am I alone in this? Quote
Musicman20 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Ive seen some absolute bargains on here and they STILL dont sell. Sign of the financial times me thinks. In addition, if you want to buy new, do it NOW before the VAT rise in 2011! Quote
farmer61 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 I agree. I've had problems selling amps/cabs (admittedly heavy weight stuff) in addition a T-Bird and a Fender Precision. The cabs etc went for a price a lot lower than I expected and didn't shift on here at all, only on eBay where I'm still paying the fees I'm also surprised when people selling stuff seem to make their life hard by keep on changing their minds etc. It has been an uphill struggle this year IMO. Still thankfully I've nothing else substantial to sell so I can sit tight until things pick up a bit. Quote
JTUK Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Reality check... Everyone is concerned about jobs and the days of cheap credit are gone....mostly. I would think and hope that most people are trying to get their finances in order so spare money goes on that first.. maybe..? Quote
Happy Jack Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Bad Year for Selling = Good Year for Buying, n'est ce pas? Quote
neepheid Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Took a while to shift my Italia, and not on here for once. Got what I wanted for it though. Quote
Stylon Pilson Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='929492' date='Aug 19 2010, 10:38 AM']Bad Year for Selling = Good Year for Buying, n'est ce pas?[/quote] Only if you want what's on offer. Buying stuff that you don't want, just because it's cheap, is a risky game. S.P. Quote
Wil Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Tell me about it, I had to let a 1212L go for £350, and even then people were asking me to take £300! Mental. Quote
Bassassin Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Agree with the OP & like many replies have said, the reasons are down to the current economic climate. Most of what I sell & buy is elderly JapCrap, it was interesting a year or so ago to see that it was weathering the recession well - it appeared that people were still willing to feed their GAS but lowering their sights a little. That's really changed this year, and I've even lost money on a few Ebay sales for the first time - and that's not even taking the 15% combined fees into account. Definitely a good time to buy in theory - but my catch-22 is that I need to sell to finance buying. So bugger, then. Jon. Quote
Smash Posted August 19, 2010 Author Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Wil' post='929547' date='Aug 19 2010, 11:08 AM']Tell me about it, I had to let a 1212L go for £350, and even then people were asking me to take £300! Mental.[/quote] Yes Wil, I have my Schroeder 1212L for sale for a great price and no one wants it and I don't want to sell it but I have to. I finally have all the gear I have ever wanted and don't want to buy or sell anything but now I am forced to as unexpected bills keep arising. So I have to sell to survive but I don't want to sell as my dream equipment is going out the door for silly money. Bad times. Quote
Wil Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Well, I think you should hold out, because it's a bloody bargain! Quote
JakeBrownBass Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Smash' post='929466' date='Aug 19 2010, 10:17 AM']Genz Benz 6.0 amp for £280 then had to pay fees[/quote] Erm, how did we miss this? It sounds like your selling them on ebay & not here?? Maybe its time to start setting a reserve price. Quote
farmer61 Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='929522' date='Aug 19 2010, 10:54 AM']just because it's cheap, is a risky game.[/quote] only if you can't afford it Quote
Cat Burrito Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 I sell buy-it-now only auctions, set at the price I want. It's amazing how many buyers come to me with low ball bids "I'll buy for 40% of what you are asking" type questions. Stuff usually sells on a relist. I've settled into my kit so I've been selling a lot off. People are spending less. Quote
Paul_C Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 It's just been announced that The London Music Show has been cancelled for this year, which shows the struggle that everyone out there is having right now By and large if you've got the gear you NEED you can always wait a little while to buy something you'd LIKE, if money's tight. Quote
niceguyhomer Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Everything sells if the price is right - trouble is, you have to take a big hit if you want to sell anything at the moment. Quote
thepurpleblob Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 I've got all sorts of stuff up for sale at the moment - USA Fender Precision Fretless included - I need a more sensible second car (I know that sounds decadent but the wife and I both need cars for our jobs). The tumble-weed is blowing through everywhere. I'm not even getting derisory offers, which is bad. Quote
Smash Posted August 19, 2010 Author Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='thepurpleblob' post='929824' date='Aug 19 2010, 02:06 PM']I've got all sorts of stuff up for sale at the moment - USA Fender Precision Fretless included - I need a more sensible second car (I know that sounds decadent but the wife and I both need cars for our jobs). The tumble-weed is blowing through everywhere. I'm not even getting derisory offers, which is bad.[/quote] Exactly my point, I have had a load of gear up for sale at very reasonable prices but not even people making offers or swaps with cash, nothing. I really wished I had a load of money in the bank I would buy up all this gear and store it until a few years when hopefully the market will pick up again. Quote
Happy Jack Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 I've probably done more deals this year than ever before ... but very few of them have involved any cash. If cash is not the driver for the deal (a bloody big 'IF', I know) then swops are the way forward. I've swopped four basses I wasn't playing for four basses that I DO play. Quote
algmusic Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='farmer61' post='929646' date='Aug 19 2010, 12:16 PM']only if you can't afford it[/quote] I think all 2nd hand is a gamble, unless you know the seller. I feel a bit more comfortable on this site, as you get a feel of your seller by their posts etc... I have a rule, I sell at reasonable to very good price, then hopefully, when I buy the bass gods will look down on me a help me get a deal :-) That said, I was very disappointed that my mirco bass sythn new price is went from £240 down to £180 new... only bought a year and a bit ago and the 2nd value.. 1/3 of what I paid :-( Quote
hagguy Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 i've got nearly all my gear for sale at the moment and it's all been on ebay aswell, just can shift any don't think i'm being unreasonable with my prices. just no-one has much cash or if the have they are taking advantage of the 0% finance all the shops are offering at the moment, if things don't pick up soon i'm in deep trouble Quote
Happy Jack Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 [quote name='algmusic' post='929981' date='Aug 19 2010, 04:22 PM']I think all 2nd hand is a gamble, unless you know the seller.[/quote] True, but in fairness I should point out that (for me) four years of active trading on eBay produced literally dozens of excellent basses which were exactly as described ... and just one 'dog'. Trading guitars, on the other hand, turned out to be far more hit'n'miss. I wonder why ... Quote
Happy Jack Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 [quote name='hagguy' post='930513' date='Aug 20 2010, 02:48 AM']i've got nearly all my gear for sale at the moment[/quote] From an eBay perspective, it doesn't help you that your basses are not easily recognised. Looking at your list of four, there are two that I can't picture in my mind at all, plus two where I would need to check before I was sure. The average, lazy eBayer tends to focus on things that they already know. Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 Had a think about this, and the problem with this year has been that so far, it has mostly been summer, and the winter bit we've had was in the midst of financial trauma. Generally in summer time people have better stuff to do than trawl the internet, and after a particularly depressing winter, even more so. I've only been able to look over my Dad's ebay account, he sells parts for classic cars and bikes, but the definite trend in the few years he has been doing it is that people sit in buying stuff during winter, so they can spend summer using it, might not be so direct with bass, but sure situation is similar to an extent. This year, winter has suffered, and the rest has been summer. Things I've been selling just took a bit more time to go at the prices I was after. Quote
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