Mr. Foxen Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bass-guitar-/270624420107?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV"]If you wanna collect[/url] Or you fancy a fight to get your shipping refunded. I already offered to arrange my own courier. Quote
EssentialTension Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) But also ... 'this are the reasons why l selling this bass guitar for only 225 pounds'. Edited August 19, 2010 by EssentialTension Quote
algmusic Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='BurritoBass' post='930389' date='Aug 19 2010, 10:48 PM']Stupid boy! That'll get pulled![/quote] well done, you beat me to it Quote
umph Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 won it, ebay has to back you but the worst that'll happen to him if he does't send it is he'll get his account banned and have to make a new one Quote
BottomEndian Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) That listing's now "ended", but it seems to be his/her usual selling technique: [url="http://shop.ebay.co.uk/katavojmara/m.html"]http://shop.ebay.co.uk/katavojmara/m.html[/url] Edited August 20, 2010 by BottomEndian Quote
Annoying Twit Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 [quote name='umph' post='930859' date='Aug 20 2010, 01:02 PM']won it, ebay has to back you but the worst that'll happen to him if he does't send it is he'll get his account banned and have to make a new one[/quote] You won it? Please keep us posted on how things develop. Quote
Bassassin Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 He'll get banned. He plainly thinks he's being a smartarse & dodging fees by doing this, he's something of a newb to selling and it hasn't occurred to him that Ebay might have encountered this sort of stunt before. Those mental Chinese sellers from a few years ago used to do this all the time. Jon. Quote
warwickhunt Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 [quote name='umph' post='930859' date='Aug 20 2010, 01:02 PM']won it[/quote] Think I'll take one of his other items... hmmm only trouble is that if I organise my own courier he isn't going to be there (or will plain refuse) to have it collected! I do how ever have family down in Corby. Quote
umph Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='930997' date='Aug 20 2010, 03:01 PM']Think I'll take one of his other items... hmmm only trouble is that if I organise my own courier he isn't going to be there (or will plain refuse) to have it collected! I do how ever have family down in Corby. [/quote] haha, if he does let you collect could be intresting, i've not heard back from him yet. May have to copy and paste the part about sellers having to charge fair postage fees. Quote
Moos3h Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 Really riles me, stuff like this. It shouldn't, but it does. Quote
tauzero Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 Ebay do seem to take their time over reports of excessive postal charges... Quote
algmusic Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 [quote name='umph' post='931282' date='Aug 20 2010, 07:41 PM']haha, if he does let you collect could be intresting, i've not heard back from him yet. May have to copy and paste the part about sellers having to charge fair postage fees.[/quote] detail below [url="http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/selling-practices.html#5"]http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/sell...ractices.html#5[/url] Quote 'Postage and related charges Be sure to specify P&P charges and related service charges in your listings.[size=4] It's against our rules to provide unclear or misleading delivery information or charging unreasonable fees for postage and related services.[/size]' Quote
mikhay77 Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 I emailed him and said that I live fairly near so would have it and pick it up,he replied and said if I want it,I must pay £225! Told him to f**k off the selling price was 99p.Needless to say he didnt reply.Muppet! Quote
Moos3h Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 Wouldn't it be awful if people kept on hitting buy it now on these stupid auctions? Gosh that would be awful. Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted August 22, 2010 Author Posted August 22, 2010 He's still trying to sell it to me, pointed out Royal mail 1st class won't take it as too big and heavy, would go parcel force for about £13. Then he messaged back, replied seems he is contractually bound to sell to someone else. Quote
cameltoe Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 Can you not buy it and pay, wait for it to arrive, and then dispute it through paypal and get the postage back? Claim you never realised, just looked at the total cost. I don't see how they won't refund it, if he's only paid £13 to post it. Quote
warwickhunt Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 [quote name='cameltoe' post='933690' date='Aug 23 2010, 02:14 PM']Can you not buy it and pay, wait for it to arrive, and then dispute it through paypal and get the postage back? Claim you never realised, just looked at the total cost. I don't see how they won't refund it, if he's only paid £13 to post it.[/quote] Now 'that' is very devious... I like your way of thinking! Quote
Annoying Twit Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='933702' date='Aug 23 2010, 02:27 PM']Now 'that' is very devious... I like your way of thinking! [/quote] I'd be concerned about ebay not refunding the postage though. Quote
warwickhunt Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 [quote name='Annoying Twit' post='933713' date='Aug 23 2010, 02:32 PM']I'd be concerned about ebay not refunding the postage though.[/quote] As would I but you'd be amazed how often ebay/paypal favour the buyer... especially if they thought they could stamp on the postage overcharging, which diddles eBay out of fees. Saying all of that, the guy is just trying to get a decent price for his items whilst circumventing the eBay fees... can't blame him for the latter part of that. Quote
algmusic Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='933719' date='Aug 23 2010, 02:34 PM']As would I but you'd be amazed how often ebay/paypal favour the buyer... especially if they thought they could stamp on the postage overcharging, which diddles eBay out of fees. Saying all of that, the guy is just trying to get a decent price for his items whilst circumventing the eBay fees... can't blame him for the latter part of that. [/quote] If you don't like how Ebay works, don't use it!.. As much as I hate Ebay, you get more punters as it provides a service.. So use it or not.. It' not smart. In terms of contract law he's agreed to 99p, you accept, he's screwed.. The P&P is breach of the Ebay rules, so that is the point to argue. I've reported the amp and cab, but it's still there!!!.. I might buy it, if ebay do nothing.. it's worth the drive from London :-) Just pay the 99p on PayPal.. Quote
Annoying Twit Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 [quote name='algmusic' post='933855' date='Aug 23 2010, 04:39 PM']In terms of contract law he's agreed to 99p, you accept, he's screwed.. The P&P is breach of the Ebay rules, so that is the point to argue.[/quote] I'm not convinced on that point. The contract formed includes a charge of £200 for p&p. I'm not sure there's a legal limit on how much can be charged for p&p. Ebay has its own rules, but they do not create law. Quote
algmusic Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 [quote name='Annoying Twit' post='933890' date='Aug 23 2010, 04:58 PM']I'm not convinced on that point. The contract formed includes a charge of £200 for p&p. I'm not sure there's a legal limit on how much can be charged for p&p. Ebay has its own rules, but they do not create law.[/quote] I understand your point but I think you've missed my point mine. I meant that the contract agreed apon is technically legally binding regardless if ebay get involved or not. The issue of whether the P&P has technically enabled the buyer not to agree to pay the P&P charges according to Ebay rules. When you click bid, you're technically legally bound, but within the rules that Ebay set. The Seller inorder to sell as signed up to agreeing to pay by Ebay rules. But in a nutshell, I think the seller just might agrue, that since they have not sold under rules set by ebay, the bid was never valid so he technically refuse the sale.. I was just saying you could frighten them that regardless of ebay, he shouldn't offer an item for 99p as technically any seller could arrange to pick it up regardless.. As I the offer is 99p. You can't force P&P unless you make it very clear P&P at the point of sale that is the only was to receive the goods in question. Quote
Mr. Foxen Posted August 23, 2010 Author Posted August 23, 2010 He's offered royal mail 1st class, which won't take an item that big, so his contract thing flies out the window. He'll go to the post office and fine it will go as a parcel for about £13, which is somewhere around the reasonable charge. Quote
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